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Old 17 Jan 2009, 09:58 PM   #1
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Default Blu-Ray vs. DVD - "picture quality"

It is very hard to find any "real world" comparison or telling pictures of how a Blu-Ray movie may look like compared to DVD material.

It does not only require player and identical movies in both formats - the tricky part was "how can I capture a screenshot?"

Well, I'm not going to say it was easy and of course I'm not going to say the way I decided to go is a proper one but I do hope the results may be of some use to you.

I used a Blu-Ray and a normal DVD player (without UPSCALER!), used two movies on Blu-Ray as well as DVD and put my digital SLR camera on a tripod for the "screenshots".


The following was used:

TV:
- LG 42" lcd - 42lg5000

Player:
- Samsung BD 1500
(borrowed this player and was amazed that this model was able to do way more than it was supposed to in terms of what the manufacturer says in the manual AND the homepage infos!
This BD 1500 WAS able to play avi files although manual and pdf say it was NOT able to.
This BD 1500 was able to play DVD+R / DVD+RW although a sticker on top of the player said that it was NOT able to [sticker did not specify wether DVD+R referred to blank media or book type so i tested all and it played all *g*
so it is all in all a matter of latest firmware update for the BD 1500!)

- LG DVX 276

Movies:
- Kung Fu Panda Blu-Ray
- Kung Fu Panda DVD
- Mutant Chronicles Blu-Ray
- Mutant Chronicles DVD

- Mamma Mia DVD

Screenshots :
- Canon EOS 30d
- Canon EF 100 mm macro
- Benro tripod


Please keep in mind that the movies were paused and of course a "still" image is different to what you are able to recognice when 24-30 frames per second move by on your TV screen.

My visual impression is this:

- you spot more details with blu-ray material on the tv but NOT as much as you will be able to see in the fololwing still images!

- you still get a very good image when playing NORMAL DVDs on a proper player; dont let the industry tell you blu-ray is out of this world as opposed to dvd!

- dvd material played with a player which has an UPSCALER makes a big difference when using a larger tv

- the sound formats TrueHD and DTS-Master are NOT that much better than good 5.1 DD or DTS signals - they are hardly more than uncompressed formats and imho no reason at all to change your system or buy a certain product just because of these features
(i do have 8 speakers connected to my onkyo btw so i'm not talking about the sound that may come from the tv)


keep in mind that when you look at these full resolution pix of my camera in 100% full format on your monitor you will see way more details and therefore differences compared to watching a moving images on a 42" or so tv.
with a full format picture like these you should and would normally have a much larger viewing distance and then those details will NOT be as clearly visible any more!

or does anyone sit in front of a 42" tv with a viewing distance of only 2 m or less?
i hope not


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the file names will tell you if it was dvd or blu-ray material on either the samsung blu-ray bd 1500 or the normal dvd lg w/out upscaler
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Old 17 Jan 2009, 10:01 PM   #2
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I must say that it is very similar.
But for the panda one i like the bly ray much more.
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in my still pictures you are able to see much more details - true

but with a movie playing 24-30 fps you will NOT see all those lovely little details as precisely as you do now - that was my experience
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In my experience watching Blu-rays and going back to watch the very same movie on DVD,I think that DVDs have a hazy blur look to them,not to mention pixlation on black images.

Why not post comparisons on movies like

2001 Space Odyssey
The Godfather
Halloween
Evil Dead II
Nightmare on Elm Street
The Cowboys
Blazing Saddles
Blade Runner
All the old Bond films and so on
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...not to mention pixlation on black images.
leads me to azume that the chip of the player is not doing a good job when it comes to upscaling capabilities or was it not even played from the same player you are referring to when talking about the blu-ray quality?

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i normally do not have artefacts when watching dvds

Why not post comparisons on movies like

2001 Space Odyssey
The Godfather
Halloween
Evil Dead II
Nightmare on Elm Street
The Cowboys
Blazing Saddles
Blade Runner
All the old Bond films and so on
you're more than welcome to do so

talking about bond: the remastered editon is a quantum leap for both sound and image quality

have not seen them on blu-ray though
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leads me to azume that the chip of the player is not doing a good job when it comes to upscaling capabilities or was it not even played from the same player you are referring to when talking about the blu-ray quality?
I didnt mean all movies,I notice it on some of the bigger ones like King Kong. I do see a all DVds being hazy though

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Hi folks,

Great Work UncasMS!

As far as I am concern ... they can keep their Blu-Ray ... from day one I just could not see the Hype on HD and or Blu-ray ... I am Fat, Dumb & Happy with plain old DVDs. Matter of a fact I am still on my 36" Panasonic ... and knock on the woods still going strong.

And who needs 25 to 50GBs of additional stuff. I guess it was needed to keep more people employed.

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I wonder if there's a "Blu-Ray review" site that critiques the quality on these releases? With some films if there exists a great source they can work from then the Blu-Ray can be much richer. But on some I have to wonder if they just take the DVD and upconvert it to blow up the bit rate? As example, I have the 16x9 "hip hop" DVD of the Jet Li Black Mask movie. I saw the Blu-Ray version and it sure looks like they just upconverted the DVD9.

If the Blu-Ray is going to be as fuzzy as the DVD9 it would be great if there was a site that saved the wasted effort by warning us off particular releases.

Sorry if it's semi-off-topic.
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simply buying BD in fact does not guarantee better/decent quality.

on www.blu-ray.com you will find reviews and you should be able to get an idea of how good picture and sound quality will be
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Thanks.
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Yes, blu-ray.com is a very good resource, especially for those not living in the US/Canada to check region status of releases (as verified by real users).
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