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Old 28 Sep 2006, 10:41 AM   #1
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Hi folks, I'm fairly new to DVD burning and it's my first post here. I think there may be a problem with RipIt4Me 1.4.14.0 that didn't apply with 1.4.13.0.

I use a LiteOn SHM-165P6S for burns.
I have 2 DVD players, a Sony DVP-NS51P multi-Region and a Transonic (cheap supermarket brand in New Zealand, also multi-Region).
I have only ever used Sony AccuCORE DVD-R 16x blanks.

I've been using RipIt4Me 1.4.13.0 with DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink and Nero Express 6 for DVD backups, everything has always worked like clockwork (excellent software), and the copies always played in all my DVD players without a hitch.

Yesterday I made backups of 3 movies, all are brand new in perfect condition, all are Region 4 and apparently unencrypted. I started with "My Neighbour Totoro", when I ran 1.4.13.0 I was prompted to upgrade to 1.4.14.0, I declined as I was busy, and made the copy of the movie with 1.4.13.0. It was fine.

I then upgraded to 1.4.14.0 and proceeded to copy "Laputa: Castle in the Sky". The copy appeared to be successful, so I also copied "Kiki's Delivery Service" which also appeared successful. (I made movie-only backups, ie., removed all menus and extras).

All three copies played perfectly on the Transonic DVD player, BUT the two copies made with 1.4.14.0 were not recognised by the Sony DVD player, it could not even start playing them no matter how many times I inserted the discs, it tried for about a minute then gave me the message "Cannot play this disc".

So, I then re-made the two suspect copies from scratch, ie, totally started again, with the older RipIt4Me 1.4.13.0 and lo-and-behold, they are 100% OK and play perfectly on my Sony player.

Coincidence that the copies failed on my Sony player when I upgraded from 1.4.13.0 to 1.4.14.0? It's possible I suppose, but I doubt it. So, I'm going back to 1.4.13.0 which I know works, ie., if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Thoughts, anyone?
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Old 28 Sep 2006, 10:45 AM   #2
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Have you tryed the new updated Ver. 1.4.15.0.

Do you have the Burn logs?
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Old 28 Sep 2006, 11:08 AM   #3
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply, ratboy.

Here's the log for one of them, from the failed burn (well, partially failed burn, it wont play in my Sony player).

I 17:03:07: RipIt4Me Version 1.4.14.0
I 17:03:07: Starting Wizard at 17:03:07
I 17:03:07: Running Windows XP Service Pack 2
I 17:03:07: Your FixVTS path points to , but it should point to FixVTS.exe
I 17:03:11: DVD Decrypter version: 3.5.4.0
I 17:03:11: DVD Shrink version 3.2.0.15
I 17:03:11:
I 17:03:11: Ripping mode: Movie only
I 17:03:11: Episodic DVD with episodes in same VTS:
I 17:03:11: Title 7 (VTS 7 PGCs 1) -- 1:44:19s -- 16:9
I 17:03:11: Title 8 (VTS 7 PGCs 2) -- 1:43:00s -- 16:9
I 17:03:11: Selected title for rip: Title 7 (VTS 7 PGC 1)
I 17:03:11: Remove Protected Cells = on
I 17:03:11: Remove Tiny Cells = on
I 17:03:11: Remove Useless Menu Cells = on
I 17:03:11: Remove Last VTS = on
I 17:03:11: Run FixVTS on full DVD = on
I 17:03:11: Rip JACKET_P folder = off
I 17:03:11: Copying original IFOs into target directory
I 17:03:11:
I 17:03:11: Wizard Step 2: PSL file creation
I 17:03:12: DVD Volume Label: KIKIS_DELIVERY_SERVICE
I 17:03:12: Loading IFOs
I 17:03:12: Region code: 4
I 17:03:12: Done opening IFOs
I 17:03:12: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 17:03:12: CRC32 value = 0xE724B567
I 17:03:12: Creating Protected Sector List (PSL) file
I 17:03:12: Done creating PSL file
I 17:03:12:
I 17:03:12: Wizard Step 3: Ripping DVD
I 17:03:15: Starting DVD Decrypter
I 17:03:15: Waiting for Decrypter to be ready
I 17:03:23: Done importing the PSL file, now starting ripping...
I 17:17:58: Done ripping ...
I 17:17:58: Decrypter ripping time: 00:14:43
I 17:17:58:
I 17:17:58: Wizard Step 3B: Optional cleanup
I 17:19:22: Loading IFOs
I 17:19:22: DVD is region-free
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 1 for BOVs
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 2 for BOVs
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 3 for BOVs
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 4 for BOVs
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 5 for BOVs
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 6 for BOVs
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 7 for BOVs
I 17:19:23: Scanning VTS 8 for BOVs
I 17:19:24: Scanning DVD Decrypter log for protected cells
I 17:19:24: There are no protected cells. This DVD does not seem to be protected.
I 17:19:24: Cleaning up cell commands
I 17:19:24: Found at least 1 unreferenced cell in VMGM
I 17:19:24: Blanking VTS 1
I 17:19:24: Blanking VTS 2
I 17:19:24: Blanking VTS 3
I 17:19:24: Blanking VTS 4
I 17:19:24: Blanking VTS 5
I 17:19:24: Blanking VTS 6
I 17:19:24: Blanking VTS 8
I 17:19:24: Now creating a simple DVD structure for the movie
I 17:19:24: Renaming VTS
I 17:19:24: Cleaning up movie PGC(s)
I 17:19:24: Removing useless PGCs
I 17:19:24: Removing menu
I 17:19:24: Saving VTS_01_0.IFO
I 17:19:24: Now cleaning VIDEO_TS.IFO
I 17:19:24: Removing menu
I 17:19:24: Discarding unused titles
I 17:19:24: Clearing pre-commands
I 17:19:24: Removing VMG_PTL_MAIT and VMG_TXTDT_MG
I 17:19:24: Saving VIDEO_TS.IFO
I 17:19:24:
I 17:19:24: Wizard Step 4: FixVTS
I 17:19:29: Starting DVD Shrink
I 18:05:54: Done!

and now here's the log for the same movie for the successful burn with the 1.4.13.0 version.

I 23:28:40: RipIt4Me Version 1.4.13.0
I 23:28:40: Starting Wizard at 23:28:40
I 23:28:40: Ripping mode: Movie only
I 23:28:40: RemoveProtectedCells on
I 23:28:40: RemoveTinyCells = on
I 23:28:40: RemoveUselessMenuCells = on
I 23:28:40: RemoveLastVTS = on
I 23:28:40: Run FixVTS on full DVD = on
I 23:28:40: Copying original IFOs into target directory
I 23:28:42:
I 23:28:42: Wizard Step 2: PSL file creation
I 23:28:43: DVD Volume Label: KIKIS_DELIVERY_SERVICE
I 23:28:43: Loading IFOs
I 23:28:43: Region code: 4
I 23:28:43: Done opening IFOs
I 23:28:43: Retrieving sectors from DVD drive
I 23:28:43: CRC32 value = 0xE724B567
I 23:28:43: Creating Protected Sector List (PSL) file
I 23:28:43: Done creating PSL file
I 23:28:43:
I 23:28:43: Wizard Step 3: Ripping DVD
I 23:28:45: Starting DVD Decrypter
I 23:28:45: Loading IFOs
I 23:28:45: Region code: 4
I 23:28:45: Finding main movie
I 23:28:45: Episodic DVD:
I 23:28:45: VTS 7 PGCs 1 - 1:44:19s -- 16:9
I 23:28:45: VTS 7 PGCs 2 - 1:43:00s -- 16:9
I 23:28:58: Waiting for Decrypter to be ready
I 23:29:03: Done importing the PSL file, now starting ripping...
I 23:44:12: Done ripping ...
I 23:44:12:
I 23:44:12: Wizard Step 3B: Optional cleanup
I 23:44:17: Loading IFOs
I 23:44:17: DVD is region-free
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 0 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 1 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 2 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 3 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 4 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 5 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 6 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 7 for BOVs
I 23:44:18: Scanning VTS 8 for BOVs
I 23:44:19: Scanning DVD Decrypter log for protected cells
I 23:44:19: Possible structure protection detected by DVD Decrypter
I 23:44:19: There are no protected cells. This DVD does not seem to be protected.
I 23:44:19: Cleaning up cell commands
I 23:44:19: Found at least 1 unreferenced cell in VMGM
I 23:44:19: Blanking VTS 1
I 23:44:19: Blanking VTS 2
I 23:44:19: Blanking VTS 3
I 23:44:19: Blanking VTS 4
I 23:44:19: Blanking VTS 5
I 23:44:19: Blanking VTS 6
I 23:44:19: Blanking VTS 8
I 23:44:19: Now creating a simple DVD structure for the movie
I 23:44:19: Renaming VTS
I 23:44:19: Cleaning up movie PGC(s)
I 23:44:19: Removing useless PGCs
I 23:44:19: Removing menu
I 23:44:19: Saving VTS_01_0.IFO
I 23:44:19: Now cleaning VIDEO_TS.IFO
I 23:44:19: Removing menu
I 23:44:19: Discarding unused titles
I 23:44:19: Clearing precommands
I 23:44:19: Removing VMG_PTL_MAIT and VMG_TXTDT_MG
I 23:44:19: Saving VIDEO_TS.VOB
I 23:44:19:
I 23:44:19: Wizard Step 4: FixVTS
I 23:44:22: Starting DVD Shrink
I 00:24:51: Done!

I was not aware of the 1.4.15.0 version, it must have only come out very recently. I'll try that for my next burn.
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Old 28 Sep 2006, 11:19 AM   #4
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How about a burning log?

Read and implement the Golden Rules of Burning. In particular, use Verbatins/TYs, make sure firmware is up to date, burn at a reasonable speed and ensure DMA is on.

Some players are more tolerant of poor burns/bad media than others.

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Can you copy and zip the IFO files from the successful burn disc and from the unplayable disc so they can be compared?

See here on how to do it. http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=66480
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OK, here's what I think you mean by the burn log. BTW, I've had a quick look at the "Golden Rules of Burning" and there may be a few things I need to change on my system or about the way I burn. So perhaps there's nothing at all wrong with 1.4.14.0 but it's something about the way I burn that's less than perfect, causing a less-than-robust burn. Here's the log anyway. And thanks to the rapid response team.


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 2004-10-27 4:35:32 a.m.
Nero API version: 6.6.0.19
Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 19b
Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S>Version: MS0N - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.19
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST360015A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : ST320014A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : ST3160021A atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S H: CDRom0
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 767MB (785904kB)
Free physical memory: 260MB (266520kB)
Memory in use : 66
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
27.9.2006
NeroAPI
5:38:13 p.m. #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation started

5:38:13 p.m. #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

5:38:13 p.m. #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
DVD-Video files sorted

5:38:14 p.m. #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

5:38:14 p.m. #5 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
DRM: Beginning burn process.

5:38:14 p.m. #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S running

5:38:14 p.m. #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

5:38:14 p.m. #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

5:38:14 p.m. #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

5:38:14 p.m. #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 272
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2272543 (505:00.43, 4438MB)

5:38:14 p.m. #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 284
Write in overburning mode: NO

5:38:14 p.m. #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2494
Recorder: LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: SONY16 - D1
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

5:38:14 p.m. #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 450
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

5:38:14 p.m. #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2272544 (2272544) = #2272544/505:0.44
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2272544 blocks [LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S]
--------------------------------------------------------------

5:38:14 p.m. #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4654170112, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2272544 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

5:38:14 p.m. #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files started

5:38:14 p.m. #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4122
Cache writing successful.

5:38:14 p.m. #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Caching of files completed

5:38:14 p.m. #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

5:38:14 p.m. #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2661
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

5:38:14 p.m. #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2624
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

5:38:14 p.m. #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21860
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , SMART-BURN : ON

5:38:14 p.m. #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2779
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

5:38:14 p.m. #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8926
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

5:39:02 p.m. #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1289
17:39:02.525 - LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S\H1 T0 : Queue again later

6:03:58 p.m. #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2272544 (22AD20h), lenght 0 blocks

6:03:58 p.m. #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

6:03:58 p.m. #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3022
EndDAO: Last written address was 2272543

6:04:18 p.m. #29 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

6:04:19 p.m. #30 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

6:04:19 p.m. #31 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.

Existing drivers:
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======
Nero Serial Removed*
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Quote:
5:38:14 p.m. #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)
Uggh!!!!!
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Recorder: <LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S>Version: MS0N - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.19
Firmware is out of date. Update - http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=2176

Switch to ImgBurn. And remember to verify your burns.

Also try new media as advised before.

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Thanks blutach. I had noticed the burn speed about 2 minutes before I saw your post, and have now set it at 4x. Thought I'd already done so.

Will update the firmware. I hadn't done that previously as the warnings about destroying my drive put me off!

And will use ImgBurn.

But I have a 50-pack of the Sony media, I bought those as various web searches and comments from others suggested it was good gear. I hope I won't have to give the rest of them away....

Thanks again.
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When you flash do it from safe mode with no disc in drive.
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Check out this thread for some nice 16X burns with that drive using different media and Smart Burn
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Safe mode? I hadn't thought of that, but sounds like a good move, will do it.

Thanks for that link jm1647, although I'm not likely to be doing much burning so if slowing it down to 4x makes the burns better then no problem.

BTW, it was taking me about 30 minutes to burn a 120 minute movie, so I assumed it was going at 4x anyway, although the log reported 16x.
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Wow, that is too long. It should be 13 minutes. Now, I know Ner0 reports 16x when it actually isn't (that's the max it gets to), but something's wrong here.

It says DMA is on, but that could be incorrect. Fix the DMA by uninstalling both channels in turn and rebooting. Check DMA in the BIOS, too.

As well, it would seem that your burner is struggling with these disks - it might be it doesn't like them or the burner needs a clean.

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OK, both Primary and Master in both IDE channels had DMA on, and all four were saying Mode 2.

I Uninstalled them in turn, rebooted and they are all still on DMA Mode 2.

But, I had a look in BIOS, and all four (Primary/Secondary Master/Slave) PIO are set to Auto (although I have the option to set these up to Mode 1-4).

And, all four in BIOS (Primary/Secondary Master/Slave) UDMA are set to Disabled. I'll enable these and see what happens. :O

BTW, I've 3 HDDs on my machine and 1 DVD burner, but I've just realised that DVDshrink by default writes the pre-burning file to my biggest HDD which happens to be the slave on the secondary IDE channel (the DVD burner is the Master on this channel). This may not be efficient, i.e., my PC is writing from slave HDD to master DVD on the same IDE channel. Next burn I'll make sure it writes to the DVD from an HDD on the primary IDE channel and see if anything changes speed-wise.

Edit:- OK, I set all the UDMA settings to Auto in BIOS, and Device Manager now reports everything on the Primary IDE as Mode 5 and the Secondary ones as Mode 4 and Mode 5. So that should speed things up. It seems weird that they UDMA was disabled in BIOS but Device Manager didn't seem to realise this.

Right, time to flash my burner. Thanks for the advice folks, I'll update this later and let anyone interested know how it went.

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You'll be fine now mate.

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1. Add a controller card, never have a hard drive and a burner on the same cable, try to arrange your drives so they never talk to each other over the same cable. Everything will be more efficient with your data drives as standalone masters on a controller, leaving your system drive standalone master.

2. Those new liteon drives won't hardly do 4X on new media, and if your computer is properly setup hardware and software wise, will probably burn best at 8 or 12X.

3. rip to the data drive that's sharing with the burner, then shrink to a drive on the primary and burn back to the burner on the secondary(until you get your computer set up right)

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