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Old 28 Feb 2007, 03:08 AM   #1
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Question-2 Writing Lead-IN ??

Hi All, I have 2 burners, A Pioneer and a Lite-On. On the Pioneer, when IMGBurn is "Writing the Lead-In", it only takes a couple of seconds, but on my Lite-On it takes about a minute and 1/2 to write the lead-in. Same discs for both burners. Does anyone why this is?? Should it take this long?? I posted the ImgBurn log below. Thanks.


I 10:51:01 ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 started!
I 10:51:01 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 10:51:01 Total Physical Memory: 785,648 KB - Available: 524,904 KB
I 10:51:01 Initialising SPTI...
I 10:51:01 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 10:51:01 Found 2 DVD▒RWs!
I 10:51:16 Operation Started!
I 10:51:16 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Videos\GI_JOE.ISO
I 10:51:16 Source File Sectors: 1,722,276 (MODE1/2048)
I 10:51:16 Source File Size: 3,527,221,248 bytes
I 10:51:16 Source File Volume Identifier: GI_JOE
I 10:51:16 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink
I 10:51:16 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 10:51:16 Destination Device: [1:1:0] LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1693S KS0B (E (ATA)
I 10:51:16 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: SONY16D1) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 10:51:16 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
I 10:51:16 Write Mode: DVD
I 10:51:16 Write Type: DAO
I 10:51:16 Write Speed: 6x
I 10:51:16 Link Size: Auto
I 10:51:16 Test Mode: No
I 10:51:16 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 10:51:16 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 10:51:17 Writing LeadIn...
I 10:52:58 Writing Image...
I 11:00:08 Synchronising Cache...
I 11:00:33 Image MD5: be7dc002fb284c382b9ddcb10043c00a
I 11:00:36 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:16
I 11:00:36 Average Write Rate: 8,010 KB/s (5.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,638 KB/s (6.2x)
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Old 28 Feb 2007, 03:29 AM   #2
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which ksob are you using?
http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html#SOHW-1693S

liteon has been working on this dvd-r lead in problem for quite some time, or so it seems

unless the disk scans bad at the beginning it would seem trivial to worry about 30 seconds or so difference
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Old 28 Feb 2007, 05:02 AM   #3
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which ksob are you using?
http://codeguys.rpc1.org/firmwares.html#SOHW-1693S

liteon has been working on this dvd-r lead in problem for quite some time, or so it seems

unless the disk scans bad at the beginning it would seem trivial to worry about 30 seconds or so difference
Chewy...I looked at your link..I'm using KSOB-Stock. Is that the one I should be using?? Or should I use one of the Patched KSOB's???
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Old 28 Feb 2007, 06:02 AM   #4
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that KC4B seems the best but there's probably not a lot of difference

the liteon may be doing some fancier stuff during the leadin like calibrating the laser for a better write
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Well..I wasn't going to bring this up, but along with the lead-in issue...I sometimes get "Sych Cache" Errors with this drive at the end of the burns. I updated the firmware to KC4B, but I was getting these errors with the previous firmware anyways. I think it has to do with the size of the ISO file, on the smaller movies, this never happens, but on ISO's that are around 4,430or more, I get this error. Is there any way to fix this?? Is this just a cheap Lite-On burner or what??


I 13:49:55 ImgBurn Version 2.2.0.0 started!
I 13:49:55 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 13:49:55 Total Physical Memory: 785,648 KB - Available: 522,000 KB
I 13:49:55 Initialising SPTI...
I 13:49:55 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 13:49:56 Found 2 DVD▒RWs!
I 13:49:57 Operation Started!
I 13:49:57 Source File: C:\Documents and Settings\Cameron\My Documents\My Videos\ROAD_TRIP.ISO
I 13:49:57 Source File Sectors: 2,266,263 (MODE1/2048)
I 13:49:57 Source File Size: 4,641,306,624 bytes
I 13:49:57 Source File Volume Identifier: ROAD_TRIP
I 13:49:57 Source File Implementation Identifier: DVD Shrink
I 13:49:57 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 13:49:57 Destination Device: [1:1:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-800A KC4B (E (ATA)
I 13:49:57 Destination Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: SONY16D1) (Speeds: 6x, 8x, 12x, 16x)
I 13:49:57 Destination Media Sectors: 2,298,496
I 13:49:57 Write Mode: DVD
I 13:49:57 Write Type: DAO
I 13:49:57 Write Speed: 4x
I 13:49:57 Link Size: Auto
I 13:49:57 Test Mode: No
I 13:49:57 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 13:49:57 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 13:49:58 Writing LeadIn...
I 13:51:27 Writing Image...
I 14:00:47 Synchronising Cache...
W 14:04:16 Potential 'WaitImmediateIO' Deferred Error - (0/2) - Program Memory Area Update Failure
E 14:05:20 Synchronise Cache Failed! - Reason: Program Memory Area Update Failure
I 14:05:20 Synchronising Cache (Last Attempt!)...
I 14:05:20 Image MD5: c60293ca59e0af9e7959af1805c1f777
I 14:05:21 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:15:22
I 14:05:21 Average Write Rate: 8,093 KB/s (5.8x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,428 KB/s (6.1x)
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Old 28 Feb 2007, 06:18 AM   #6
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sony is an ok media, grade B at best, I wouldn't push them to the edge myself,
at least not past the 4400 mark

that family of burners seemed better with the verbatim 16x dvd+r and then bitsett than with dvd-r media

and often burn better at 8x and 12x than at 6x

was one of the first good scanners that liteon made
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What exaclty is "Synchronizing Cache...." What does that mean in terms of burning discs??
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That's a good question for LightningUK in our Imgburn forum
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That's a good question for LightningUK in our Imgburn forum
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Already answered here by LUK.
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maybe a rephrase of the question is in order,

What causes it to fail?
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The same thing that causes everything to fail...

The drive not liking the media.
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I guess a switch to the 16x dvd+r verbatim is in order if he's going to fill the disk all the way up, never had a problem with the sony dvd+r's and 4400MB
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The same thing that causes everything to fail...

The drive not liking the media.
So a Sony drive doesn't like Sony media...that's just perfect!!
I figured they would be the most capatable with each other being the same company and all. I personally think my Lite-On is just not a good burner. I've had my Pioneer the same amout of time and it works no matter what you throw at it. I think I'm gonna do some reaserch on LG drives and see if there's any good deal out there.
Thanks for the info guys.
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in several ways that liteon is better than the pioneer
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in several ways that liteon is better than the pioneer
Well...I know the Lite-On can booktype and the Pioneer can't. But other than that, I don't see what your saying. Can you give some examples.
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