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Old 8 Oct 2007, 05:08 PM   #1
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Default Writing Speed is different from setting

I setted writing speed x2, but the actual speed is x4.
Anything wrong method? This media can be setted only 4x, 6x, 8x in this drive?

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I 15:45:33 ImgBurn Version 2.3.2.0 started!
I 15:45:33 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 15:45:33 Total Physical Memory: 753,132 KB  -  Available: 350,492 KB
W 15:45:33 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
W 15:45:33 Drive H:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
I 15:45:34 Initialising SPTI...
I 15:45:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 15:45:36 Found 2 DVD-ROMs, 1 DVD▒RW and 1 DVD-RAM/RW!
I 15:46:10 Operation Started!
I 15:46:10 Building Image Tree...
I 15:46:14 Checking Directory Depth...
I 15:46:14 Calculating Totals...
I 15:46:14 Preparing Image...
I 15:46:15 Checking Path Length...
I 15:46:15 Image Size: 1,973,452,800 bytes
I 15:46:15 Image Sectors: 963,600
I 15:46:16 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:06
I 15:46:16 Operation Started!
I 15:46:16 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 15:46:16 Source File Sectors: 963,600 (MODE1/2048)
I 15:46:16 Source File Size: 1,973,452,800 bytes
I 15:46:16 Source File Volume Identifier: YUNA_ITO_HEART
I 15:46:16 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 15:46:16 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 15:46:16 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 15:46:16 Destination Device: [0:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-716A 1.11 (K:) (1394)
I 15:46:16 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: MAXELL-001-00) (Speeds: 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 15:46:16 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 15:46:16 Write Mode: DVD
I 15:46:16 Write Type: DAO
I 15:46:16 Write Speed: 2x
I 15:46:16 Link Size: Auto
I 15:46:16 Test Mode: No
I 15:46:16 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 15:46:17 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 15:46:19 Writing LeadIn...
I 15:46:45 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 963599)
I 15:52:40 Synchronising Cache...
I 15:52:44 Closing Track...
I 15:52:45 Finalising Disc...
I 15:53:00 Image MD5: 9dNero Serial Removed07
I 15:53:01 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:06:43
I 15:53:01 Average Write Rate: 5,428 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 5,774 KB/s (4.2x)
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Old 8 Oct 2007, 08:45 PM   #2
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You burner was designed to burn at up to 16X, those disks at up to 8X, your drive has a firmware which determines the allowed burn speed

If there was a way to burn slower than 4X it would probably make a bad burn

turning off dma will give you a 1X burn and probably a coaster
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W 15:45:33 Drive F:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
W 15:45:33 Drive H:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB in size.
Wouldn't FAT32 have something to do with it ?
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Old 8 Oct 2007, 11:25 PM   #4
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@Chewy

This media itself is maximum 4x, and this burner(Plextor) judges possible to burn 8x.
I tried to burn with 2x, because quality of 4x was bad.
I've ever thought to be slower is better for quality if bad quality.
You explained it is incorrect if slower than 4x. Thanks.

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Old 9 Oct 2007, 12:11 AM   #5
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those disks are pretty old, they quit making them over 2 years ago, in their day they were considered class A media, I didn't explain anything incorrectly afaik, your firmware simply assumes they were capable of being burned at 8x with good results

I had similar ricoh 4x dvd+r's that I got 200 of in a clearance sale, they burned great up to 12x, all supported by firmware on 4 drives
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Yes, these media is old. I always use -R media, so I bought these +R media when get burner which supports +R but not used till now.

I'll burn remaining media at 8x next time according to your suggestion.

What I thought at first was because of my experience like below,
*Yuden media(-R) of 8x (drive can burn at 4x 6x 8x 12x 16x) => quality of 4x was better than 6x and 8x.
*Maxell media(-R) of 8x (drive can burn at 4x 6x 8x) => quality of 4x was better than 8x.
*Mitsubishi(=Verbatim) media(+R/DL) of 2.4x (drive can burn at 2.4x 6x 8x) => quality of 2.4x was better than 6x and 8x.

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well your firewire chip and enclosure may be the problem, implementation of the 1394 standard isn't always optimal

most people don't have any problem up to 12x using firewire

I rarely found 4x to be better than 8x, they were usually equal

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I'm not going to say problem(at least -R media). Difference of replayed image is not clear, I compared PIE/PIF/TA by plextor tools.

About +R/DL, burning at 6x obviously caused the problem(error or block noise or pause at LayerBreak).

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the plex won't burn verb dl at 4x?
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Sorry I missed. Plex can burn verb dl at 4x.

"*Mitsubishi(=Verbatim) media(+R/DL) of 2.4x (drive can burn at 2.4x 4x 6x) => quality of 2.4x was better than 6x."
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