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Old 26 Oct 2005, 03:09 PM   #1
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Default PAL to NTSC Conversion

PAL to NTSC with TMPGEnc Plus and DGPulldown
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There are many different ways and tools to convert DVD from PAL to NTSC. The fastest method is to patch the PAL DVDs with IfoEdit so no need PAL to NTSC conversion. Unfortunately not all standalone DVD players can read these patched discs. Converting with AviSynth can yield great result by slowing down the framerate from 25 fps 23.976 fps and then using GoldWave to adjust the Time Warp to keep video and audio in sync. It is definitely a great program but also looks intimidating to someone who’s never tried scripting before. Canopus ProCoder 2 is one of the best programs for converting PAL to NTSC. However, not so many people can afford its high price. Although the method I use below is not a perfect for this kind of conversion, it utilizes most of free or trial tools, simple to use, and lesser chance for the audio to go out of sync. >>
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Tools needed:>>
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DVD Decrypter(free)>>
DGIndex (DGMPGDec) (free)>>
TMPGEnc Plus (trial ware) >>
DGPulldown (free)>>
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Procedure:>>
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1. Ripping with DVD Decrypter
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In this procedure, I use DVD Decrypter to decrypt the PAL DVD to my hard drive in File mode. When ripping with DVD Decrypter, we can easily see the DVD format either PAL or NTSC by right-clicking the disc content and selecting the Stream Processing (That is the reason of common complaint about burnt DVD only plays with PC, not with standalone DVD player)




2. Frameserving DVD with DGIndex
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Start DGIndex, go to File and click Open. Browse to the VIDEO_TS folder of the DVD backup, select and open all the available files in the File List, and then click OK to load the entire DVD in DGIndex. We can preview our DVD by pressing F5. Finally Go to File, select Save Project (F4) to create a new name and location for DGIndex Project Files (*.d2v) for video and (.mpa) for audio >>
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3. Converting with TMPGEnc Plus
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Start TMPGEnc Plus, close the Wizard, press Load to open the Template, and load the “DVD (PAL).mcf” template (This is the template of the original PAL file)>>



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Click Browse buttons of the Video source to select the .d2v file and the Audio source for .mpa file. Then choose a name and location for the Output file name>>



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If we go to the Setting right now, we will notice that most of the settings on the Video tab become grayed out. Therefore, we have to click Load button again, open the Extra folder, and load the “unlock.mcf” template by selecting it and click Open>>




Now, press the Setting button, on the Video tab change the video resolution from PAL to NTSC (For example: changing from 720x576 to 720x480). Change the Encode mode from “Interlace” to “Progressive” (Non-interlace). Don’t change the Framerate. Just keep it at 25 fps. Click Start to begin encoding>>




After encoding the file, go to TMPGEnc Plus: FileMpeg ToolsSimple De-multiplex, load the mpg, and demux it into the .m2v and .mp2 files (This step is necessarily needed to have a lesser chance of the audio going out of sync.) >>



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4. Applying 3:2 Pulldown
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Open DGPulldown, click Browse to load the m2v file, choose the desired framerate from 25 fps to 29.97 fps, and click Convert button



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DGPulldown is useful for applying traditional 3:2 pulldown which takes a progressive MPEG-2 video elementary stream and applies pulldown flags to change it to a higher legal MPEG-2 output framerate. It also allows changing/correction of timecodes>>
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After the DGPulldown conversion is done, the m2v and mp2 can be remuxed by using TMPGEnc Plus: FileMpeg ToolsSimple Multiplex to be authored with any DVD author programs or opening them directly to the TMPGEnc DVD Author for DVD authoring>>



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Old 26 Oct 2005, 08:05 PM   #2
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Fine guide Ben. I have extracted the pix and popped them in the post.



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Old 27 Oct 2005, 12:36 AM   #3
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Much mahalo for helping me with the pix blu. You're always ready for supporting

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Old 27 Oct 2005, 09:15 AM   #4
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Does this convert the whole DDV, Menu's and all?

And...I was trying to follow the directions...maybe its just me...DGIndex only outputted a .d2v file, no audio file...Do you have to do anything else to get it to output the audio?
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Old 27 Oct 2005, 12:31 PM   #5
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Where can I download BDPulldown? I can't seem to find a site to do this.
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Old 27 Oct 2005, 12:37 PM   #6
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Hi asamel,

You can get it from the link below:

http://neuron2.net/dgpulldown/dgpulldown.html

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Old 27 Oct 2005, 01:14 PM   #7
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Hi swraman,

All of my PAL DVDs about spearfishing events in Europe have no menus so that I've never had opportunity to learn how to save the menus while converting from PAL to NTSC in order to have a correct answer for you yet. What I am afraid is that, in my opinion, since you have to encode and reauthor your DVD, you won't be able to save your menu unless you have to combine with different tools or converting PAL to NTSC with a different method

DGIndex your decrypted DVD into 2 files: a mypalmovie.d2v for video and a mypalmovieT01 DELAY 0ms.mpa for audio
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It outputs a .ac3 audio file which is not openable by PMPGeng.

Do I havbe to change the output settings or something?

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It outputs a .ac3 audio file which is not openable by TMPGEnc.

Do I have to change the output settings or something?
Select "Decode AC3 Track to WAV" in the Audio menu before saving your project.
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Default BenBryant - Thank you so much!

Wow! Such an excellent guide/tutorial. Thank you so much! I'm pretty new at this, as I just received a whole stack of PAL DVD's, home-authored by a fellow film archivist of public domain films, news broadcast outtakes, discarded / "found" footage discarded from old film labs, as well as anthropological footage [absolutely none of it is copyright protected or otherwise restricted from copying/converting -- believe me, I've researched this well]. I was scratching my head over how to convert easily without the seemingly daunting plethora of tools & idiosyncratic settings, etc. out there. I tried like everyone else, I guess, the IfoEdit quick fix, which works *most* of the time, but as is posted, was worried about true NTSC compatability.

I work at a non-profit film archive/restoration facility, so am always delighted to see freeware [mostly] tools that I can use, and as always, will donate once I try them out. [And to Digital Digest as well!] TMPGEnc I can certainly afford to buy after my trial period!

Anyway, thank you so much for this great New Year's present! I can't wait to get started.
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In step 3....why did u select videocd(Pal).mcf instead of DVD(Pal).mcf...for your screen example?
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Hi boonclee,

Mahalo for bringing it up

My bad. In the printscreen software, I placed that fake mouse pointer there by accident. DVD (PAL).mcf should have been selected as stated in step 3

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Good pickup. @ben - wanna send me a new pic and I will change it?

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quite ok ben,,,
ok...i ran dgindex on the decrypted files..
and it produces 3 files...
1. slp2.dv2 (which is only 717kb)
2. spl2 T02 3_2ch 384Kbps DELAY 0ms (243MB)
3 spl2 T01 2_0ch 192Kbps DELAY 0ms (260MB)
so i proceeded to run tmgemc plus 2.5
and when i tried to browse the file...it couldnt come up..because the file type is not on the list...
so also is the audio browse....
BTW....what do u do with 2 audio files? and
when i change it to all file types...it shows the spl.dv2 file...but when i selected it...itsays " cannot open or support"

any suggestions? thanks ben
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Much mahalo for helping blu. I attach the correct pic and please help me with that

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