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Old 20 May 2004, 06:44 PM   #1
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does anyone know the best way to get 8 episodes of 25 minutes onto a standard dvd? i know it's possible cuz i have dvd's like that
but tmpgenc author won't let me make too big dvd's wich i would then grind thru dvdshrink, i tried to make 2 dvd's but even then i wouldn't know howto get those 2 dvd's into one, even if dvdsrhink got the size down well enough (wich it didn't) and it somehow removed the sound oO wich is prolly a noobmistake or something
anyway, i woudl really apreciate all the help you can give me
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Old 20 May 2004, 11:10 PM   #2
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"but tmpgenc author won't let me make too big dvd's wich i would then grind thru dvdshrink"

Just ignore any error message in TMPGEnc DVD Author and write the project to your HD. If the size is beyond the 4.37 Gig maximum for a DVD (r, rw), then open the project in DVD Shrink and compress.
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Old 21 May 2004, 02:21 AM   #3
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i did, it didn't let me make too big dvd's wich i would then grind thru dvdshrink
it stopped at 60% and gave the error again
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Old 21 May 2004, 02:58 AM   #4
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What error?
Are you trying to create files larger than 4 gig on Windows 98/SE/ME?
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Old 21 May 2004, 04:19 AM   #5
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win2k
it gave a similar error like the 'this file blabla larger then standard 4.7 carp blabla stopping encodezor'
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Old 21 May 2004, 04:30 AM   #6
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Well, I just uninstalled TMPGEnc DVD Author because I never use it, so I can't recreate the error. Is there no way to ack the thing, and author it anyhow?
I can't recall every having that error, sorry.
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Old 21 May 2004, 04:55 AM   #7
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no matter, but what matters is that i can't do the thing i want, maybe you know a way howto or something?

maybe there's is a person out there that has the deep and vast knowledge of the internet, a person that knows how to get 8 eps of 25minz each on a standard 4.7g dvd
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Old 21 May 2004, 06:29 AM   #8
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Getting that much video on dvdr is easy, just encode at a given bitrate.
For you, that is in TMPGEnc's settings, set the bitrate to 2820kbps for video and 224kbps audio.
Actually set the video bitrate a bit smaller, to allow for the overhead of authoring.
All 8 clips will then fit together in your authoring program.
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Old 21 May 2004, 07:15 AM   #9
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so tha'ts the trick! *bow* *bow* thx a heap i'll screw around with this sum more

btw canopus procoder seemed to encode teh thingiez much faster then tmpgenc, this correct or was i dreaming?
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Old 21 May 2004, 07:38 AM   #10
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You are correct.
Canopus is much faster.
If you use a bitrate calculator such as this one: http://www.dvdrhelp.com/calc.htm
Plug in the total number of minutes, and it will give you a fairly good estimate of the needed bitrate.
I always drop it just a bit, because authoring is going to use roughly 2% more space, so in your case, encode at about 2750kbps video, or encode audio to mp2 or AC3 to save even more space.
Plenty of room to fit 8 on a dvdr, although not the greatest quality.
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even lower bitrate huh oO hmm k i'll also use the calc thingy, thx a lot
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Old 21 May 2004, 08:41 AM   #12
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Be sure you're not using a FAT32 system/HD. That has a 4gig limit and you can always shrink the project a second time. Shrink does not alter audio so your audio problems are occuring before the shrink process.
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Old 21 May 2004, 06:50 PM   #13
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yeah i'm on ntfs, would be ugly if i were to use fat32 on win2k T_T

btw could i like...match the bitrate of the dvd with the avi? that way there's no quality loss, right? theoretically?
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Old 22 May 2004, 12:11 AM   #14
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pfff something isn't quite right, i do the 2500bitrate and it's still too big -_- but it's the audio thingy, i can't change it's settings, it makes a 250meg wav file from it T_T setting seems to be locked in canopus procoder?
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Rip the audio out so you have ONLY a video file from Canopus.
Run the audio through Audacity or Soundforge, resample it to 48khz if it isn't already, and then save it as AC3 with AC3Enc http://club.cdfreaks.com/lite/t-78614.html
The AC3 will be MUCH smaller than the wav.
Load your video mpeg, and AC3 audio into your authoring program.

If that's just too complicated, hit the "Advanced" button on the bitrate calculator and input the audio bitrate for .wav
If you are doing no adjusting of audio in Canopus, it is probably making a 384kbps sample, and I would think 128 is plenty, 224 max.
Just as you have now learned to adjust video bitrate to reduce filesize, you can do the same with audio.
I still think the AC3 option is best, because it's a native DVD format for audio, and takes up far less room than .wav and is also smaller than, .mp2/3.
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