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Old 10 Oct 2004, 09:28 PM   #1
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Hello everyone,

Excuse me for being newbie. I am very enthusiastic about DVD ripping and authoring and I'm a new comer in this area. Once I master this I will pay back my dues and do all I can to help individuals starting out like myself.

My questions is:

How can I fix a PAL DVD so it will be a region free dvd. Right now I can only play this dvd on my computer but not in my DVD player. I know there are DVD players that can play PAL format. However, my particular DVD player does not have this capability.

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Old 11 Oct 2004, 12:17 AM   #2
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Try using a program called "DVD Region+CSS Free".
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 04:55 AM   #3
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"However, my particular DVD player does not have this capability."

What "ormonde" has suggested will not make your PAL DVD playable on your NTSC standalone DVD player because the suggested software is ONLY for your computer


Click on:

http://forums.digital-digest.com/search.php?s=

and enter "PAL to NTSC" to read the many previous postings regarding the processes involved in performing such a conversion...
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 10:57 AM   #4
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Thanks ormonde for your suggestion. However, setarip's comment about PAL not playable on my setop NTSC standalone DVD player is correct.

I have attempted to use DVDDecrypter and DVDShrink and it is still in PAL video format.

I am reserching at the link setarip posted above at the moment. From some of my reading I noticed that I have to re-encode the PAL video into NTSC. This sounds like more work and time than I relize. I didn't see an article outlining how to do it any easier. Am I correct on this approach?

Thanks in advance.
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"Am I correct on this approach?"

Yes, it's rather time consuming, detailed, and oft'times less than perfect...
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 02:33 PM   #6
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It would probably be far easier to look into purchasing a standalone player that will play both NTSC and PAL formats if you have DVDs in both formats. One of my standalone players is a Daewoo that I purchased a little over a year ago that plays both NTSC and PAL that cost only $39.00.

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Old 11 Oct 2004, 09:48 PM   #7
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I would also recommend getting a new player. I do format conversions (both PAL to NTSC and NTSC to PAL) and although the outcome is very satisafctory it takes ages. I also have to use numerous programs to do it. I don't have the need to do this I just do it for the fun and experience.

Are Apex players still about in the US? I think they converted the video. Otherwise, how about Sampo? I have a Encore DV 450 (UK model) using Sampo firnware and it is the best format coversion I have ever seen.
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Old 12 Oct 2004, 11:44 PM   #8
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ormonde and nwg...Yea...I'm looking into buying a setop player that will play both formats.

I will give it a shot at re-encoding the PAL video into NTSC video for the experience. I want to achieve quality...time does not matter. How and where do I start? I've read a lot of posts and I don't know what is good software to use to get quality results.

Please help.

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Old 13 Oct 2004, 12:22 AM   #9
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"I don't know what is good software to use to get quality results."

I would first "Rip" the DVD to your HD using "DVD Decrypter" (in "File Mode"). Then use a program called "DVD2AVI" and create a "Project File" of the DVD that can then be "Frameserved" to "TMPGEnc" or "TMPGEnc Plus". From there, do the following:

1. Convert the AVI (DivX or Xvid)/mpeg file(s) - or "Project File" to a DVD compliant mpeg-2 file(s) using "TMPGEnc" or "TMPGEnc Plus". Use the DVD template (NTSC or PAL) form the "Project Wizard" to help you accomplish the task. If you have an mpeg file that is already DVD-compliant, then skip directly to step 2.

2. Then use "TMPGEnc DVD Author" (different than "TMPGEnc") to author the newly created mpeg-2 into a DVD-related file structure (.IFO, .BUP, .VOB). As an alternative, you can use "DVDLab" to author as well.

3. If the combined filesize of the project exceeds 4.37 Gig, use "DVD Shrink" or similar transcoding program to compress.

4. Use "Nero" or similar burning program to burn onto a DVD (r, rw) disk.

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ormonde, I appreciate very much for taking the time outlining detailed steps for me to get started. I will experiment with using TMPGEnc or TMPGEnc Plus and TMPGEnc DVD Author and DVDLab.

I have read about CCE over TMPGEnc regarding quality. Do you know how to use CCE and the process involve similar to the above descriptions?

Thanks in advance.
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"I have read about CCE over TMPGEnc regarding quality. Do you know how to use CCE and the process involve similar to the above descriptions?"

YOu might first want to read about the comparative prices...
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ormonde, in the above you mentioned DVD Region+CSS Free. I downloaded the free trial v5.5 and am using now to decrypte a disc with Region: 1, RCE Protection: No, and Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM.

It seems that it does not decrypte correctly. After I ran DVDDecrypter and output to an ISO file image. Then I ran DVDInfoPro to compare the ISO image to the original DVD disc and there are a lot of differences between the original and the ISO image. Is this normal? Or the decrypt process failed?

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"Then I ran DVDInfoPro to compare the ISO image to the original DVD disc and there are a lot of differences between the original and the ISO image"

Since DVD DEcrypter has removed all copy protection data in creating the .ISO image file, it will most certainly differ from the original...
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