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Old 27 Mar 2002, 09:24 PM   #1
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Hi
I am using the following programs
Flask Mpeg XiS 3.0e
Nandub 1.0rc2
AVIsynth v1.0beta
Premiere Video Server Plugin v.93
I am using the above programs the frameserve to nandub
but when i start my first pass in nandub
it comes up saying
unsupported video format can
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Old 27 Mar 2002, 09:29 PM   #2
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I wouldn't recommend the use of Flask as a frameserver. It worked for me though, but was very awkward to use.

Install GordianKnot instead. You can hardly go wrong with a correct installation of GK. It is a much better framserver.
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Old 27 Mar 2002, 09:47 PM   #3
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Oh so is GK
actually just a frame server?
can u change aspect ratio in it
becuase i like the easy cropping and changing of aspect ratio
with flask thats why i was trying to frameserve with it
thanx for the costant help you have given me enchanter
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Old 27 Mar 2002, 10:05 PM   #4
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actually can you
just tell me how to frameserve
in flask (resolve my problem)
becuase i really like the
cropping and changing the
aspect ratio in it
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Old 27 Mar 2002, 10:50 PM   #5
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This is the guide that I used, though you're likely to have read it as well: http://nickyguides.digital-digest.co...erve-flask.htm

I did not have any trouble following and carrying out the steps outlined in the guide. If your problem arises despite having followed this step, I would really have no idea on how to correct it.

Let me try to convince you to move away again. Using Flask as a frameserver is very much like trying to do recordings with cassette tapes. You have to 'rewind' Flask to the beginning again when you want to redo the encoding. And if Flask fails in the middle of the process, your whole procedure is up in smoke and you're back on square one. This is not the case with the other frameserve methods (vFAPI & Avisynth), where they have proven themselves stable and much faster.

To be able to play around with the cropping & aspect ratio, virtualdub filters can do the same thing and with much better versatility. With Null Transform, you can specify the croppings while also scrolling from frames to frames to see how the cropping goes. With Resizer (or Smart Resizer), you can specify the horizontal and vertical resolutions, while making sure that the horizontal to vertical ratio conforms to the aspect ratio of the specific movie you're working on.

Another BIG problem with Flask. If you're working on 3:2 pulldown material (FILM -> NTSC), Flask makes it virtually (or almost) impossible to remove the interlacing artifacts. This is not the case with the alternative frameservers.

Give GK a try and once you are familiar with it, you will find no reason to go back to Flask as a frameserver.
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Old 28 Mar 2002, 09:21 PM   #6
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thanx again
i totally agree
Flask isnt good at all
It is good to just understand the terms
and to get a vague idea of what kind of movies take up lots of space
and hard to compress
etc.
can
the link that you gave me
i looked at the exact same thing
and it dosent work
so i have no idea
I will consider moving
to GK
can you tell me where i can get filters
or information about nandub filters
thanx for the help
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http://www.virtualdub.org/virtualdub_filters

Have fun! These things are much better to play around with than Flask.

p.s. Most of the basic filters you need (Crop & Resize) will already be included in the original installation of nandub/Virtualdub.
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thanx for all the help
i think now i can do it
over the weekend
i will finish
and come with a div-x that i will be proud of
thanx a million enchanter without you
i would be lost
and it is nice to know some one
who is into anime
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Glad I can help. By the way, I am an anime freak.

p.s. Have you got this Rahxephon opening song (Hemisphere)? It has some funny problems with Live! cards.

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Old 28 Mar 2002, 10:04 PM   #10
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sorry to ask you again but
i need help
1.what filter does changing aspect ratio
2. which order should i do these
cropping
subtitles
changing aspect ratio
resizing
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Order:
1. Cropping (Use Null Transform -> Cropping)
2. Resizer (Input the horizontal and Vertical resolutions so that they match the aspect ratio of the movie. Most anime episodes, except Vandread and a few others, use an aspect ratio of 4:3 and hence 640x480, 512x384, etc, will work well. Just remember that they have to be multiples of16)
3. Subtitles (Vobsub does it perfectly and even better than Flask)
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Old 28 Mar 2002, 10:18 PM   #12
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thanx for da hell of the help you have given me
must try now
thanx a lot
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Old 28 Mar 2002, 10:24 PM   #13
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sorry but
how do i frameserve with GKnot
i dont have it yet
so i just want to have an idea of what i am goin 2 do
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Download and install GK into a folder of your own choosing. Make sure you install the Avisynth plugin included, as this is an integral part of frameserving.

Create a DVD2AVI project file (.d2v) with DVD2AVI. Open the .d2v file in GK.

You will have to play around the GK settings to really know what to do. It's a long story to write down here, but truly, I found GK to be very easy to use and understand. You should too. Just spend some time on it.

p.s. You are basically using GK to create an .avs file, which Virtual/nandub can open and treat like a video file, which in turn can be 'encoded' into an AVI file.

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Old 28 Mar 2002, 10:37 PM   #15
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oh so you use GK to make an .avs
then use nandub open it
first pass
then second pass with all of the filters
so do u actually encode with GK
or do you use it just to get the .avs file?
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