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Old 19 Nov 2005, 04:04 AM   #1
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Question. A friend has a problem burning a DVD movie he has. He asks you to try to burn it for him. You do.

Is this Piracy?

Well it's what I did and I then get accussed of Piracy in another thread here I started. Then the mod closes the thread where I can't defend myself.

An assumption was apparently made that I made myself a copy and that was not the case.

I'm just clearing my name here. I own many DVD movies and many PC games. I've bought every one of them and don't subscribe to Piracy. In fact I have been pretty vocal against it.
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Old 19 Nov 2005, 06:27 AM   #2
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question. What is Piracy?
answer. that is what we really mean when we said:" i backup my movies so i can protect the original"
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Exactly right. Doesn't matter who actually makes the copy as long as the copy is for the original owner.
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Old 19 Nov 2005, 08:36 AM   #4
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This is a forum for discussing digital video, not what the law is.

We are not senior IP attorneys, nor do we profess to be. If you want legal advice, consult counsel.

The DMCA is a complicated legal act, which many people say conflicts with other US laws. In particular s1201 contains many prohibitions.

If you are interested in reading up on it, you might like to look here.

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I am not trying to discuss law. I would not have even opened this thread to begin with if you hadn't jumped the gun and falsely accused me of piracy, then close the thread without allowing me to respond.

I wasn't going to let you post something about me that was not true without me being able to corrrect it.

I did. It's a done deal now.
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Old 19 Nov 2005, 11:37 AM   #6
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It may not be ideal but I guess sometimes it's better to say less like, "I'm trying to backup this DVD" instead of "I'm trying to backup my friend's DVD".

That way nobody can read into what you really mean
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Mike - again, we do not condone you making copies of material you do not own.

Your rather combative attitude has been on display for the last few days now. This will not assist you in obtaining advice.

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IMO if you burn a copy and give the original and the copy to the person who purchased the original, without keeping a copy for yourself, this would not be piracy. but then as stated above you would be safer asking sombody such as attorney
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What is Piracy?
is when someone take what he don't have rights like that sailor with a parrot over his shoulder.

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is when someone take what he don't have rights like that sailor with a parrot over his shoulder.
lol, bloody hell jeo! .....check your rep in the next 24 hrs....
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Mike, I'm new to this forum and probably don't know much, but I've seen your "issue" all over this board. I really think you should let this drop! Take the advice that you've been given and try to use it to your advantage when posting here. No need to prove anyone right or wrong at this point. My advice, MOVE ON!...or the only way you'll post here is under a new name.
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What is piracy?

RIAA/MPAA/Hollywood definition: Trying to make a copy of anything that you don't own the reproduction rights to (ie. if you are not the studio that distributes the music/movie), for whatever reason (personal use or otherwise). Using any tool that breaks copy protection, no matter how weak the copy protection is or whether you are using it just to allow playback, is also piracy. If they get their way, using your computer to playback music/movies will also be illegal (see the Sony threads in the off topics forum).

Sensible definition: If you have a copy without the original version (if the original version is available to be purchased/rented/licensed by the average Joe).

Things like recording stuff from TV/radio is a little bit more complicated, because technically it's illegal, but the TV/radio stations are already paying for this through the high licensing fees, and there is not copy protection present to prevent copying (as well as widely available commercial hardware to do it, VCRs, DVD recorders, etc...). Recording stuff from TV and sharing it on the Internet is a little bit different as well, since it fits the definition of "broadcast", but downloading a TV episode (that hasn't come out on DVD yet) is having a copy without there ever been an original available that can be bought (and more similar to recording stuff from TV), so it is slightly more understandable.
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Mike, I'm new to this forum and probably don't know much, but I've seen your "issue" all over this board. I really think you should let this drop! Take the advice that you've been given and try to use it to your advantage when posting here. No need to prove anyone right or wrong at this point. My advice, MOVE ON!...or the only way you'll post here is under a new name.
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i read a news article a little while ago, they were interviewing an 'expert' in one of the US's leading law firms, he said something like

'its very unlikely a person could be prosecuted over downloading & watching an episode of 'Lost' because they happened to miss it. Prosecution is possible when they download it because they'd rather not pay for the DVD'

i find the FTA TV episode downloading issue particulary interesting
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What is piracy?

RIAA/MPAA/Hollywood definition: Trying to make a copy of anything that you don't own the reproduction rights to (ie. if you are not the studio that distributes the music/movie), for whatever reason (personal use or otherwise). Using any tool that breaks copy protection, no matter how weak the copy protection is or whether you are using it just to allow playback, is also piracy.
I agree with admin, they specifically state that the Source media (DVD/VCD etc) should not be copied or distributed in anyway irrespective or personal/home use.

A person has right to view the "legally bought" media for his/her own viewing only....period, rest everything is piracy.
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