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Old 25 Dec 2006, 07:26 AM   #1
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Hi, seasonal greetings.

I've just got Nero 7 with Nero Recode and it's great but I can't seem to burn video data (for example, an actual film) onto a standard dvd. Each time I use Nero Recode and convert to H264 high resolution, it burns the file as a data disc. I can only play the file on my pc and not on a tv. I'll be extremely grateful if someone can help and explain how I burn the file so it's a video file and not a data one. I've tried everything but I can't seem to do it. Each time it's burned as a data disc and not a video disc. Got me totally confused.

When I use Nero Vision it's fine - I burn video data onto a dvd and it works on a normal dvd player but Nero Recode doesn't - it always burns as a data disc. Is there something I'm not doing right?

Many thanks if you can help.

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Old 25 Dec 2006, 07:33 AM   #2
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welcome to the forum

mpeg4 cd's and dvd's are burned as data disks and need a new player divx? to play

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264

this will explain the link between H264 and mpeg4
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Thanks for the reply. Hope you don't mind as I'm not too hot with all the technical stuff in that Wikipedia link, but are you saying Nero Recode 2 can't burn video data to play on a standard dvd player?

So basically, it's impossible (without a divx player)? Can you just confirm that? Many thanks.
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nero vision converts avi to dvd, recode does take dvd files once unencrypted and compress them and edit to fit single layer
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Can I ask one big favor, Chewy?

Could you explain in simple terms how to burn an h264 file using Nero Recode so you can play it on a standard dvd player? I'm still not sure if this is possible? Is it possible to do this?

I have, for example, a dvd - not encrypted. It has four vob files. So what do I do? Could you explain the process - step by step. I just can't understand. I'm sure it's simple once you know how.

What's the first step? And then the second etc? If you can explain step by step I'll understand. Many thanks.
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well vob files, are mpeg2(standard dvd), vision can open them and add them to a compilation

of course dvdshrink should do this too

vision will give you a menu

I have an older version of nero 6.6xxx and have only be playing with nero vision for a few months

on a lark I made a pal dvd from a ntsc one

now if you have h264 files instead of vob, simply convert with vision

Until you get all the bugs out don't burn anything, just write to the hard drive
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Right. It's a bit confusing but thanks.

I'll probably go back to SuperV2006 - it's coded in such a way that it can be easily burned to disc. I've done a few h264 clips, played them on my tv via a standard dvd recoder player and it works fine. It's just very slow encoding compared to Nero Recode but I know what I am doing with Super. Not as confusing.
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do you have a tool called nero vision express?

make dvd/dvd video/add files

can do a lot even boost sound, edit etc
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I got Nero 7 with all the applications. I use Nero Express to burn audio files and I used to use Nero 6's Vision to burn standard definition video files. It's okay, thanks for the help but I've worked out how to burn h264 encoded Nero Recode data files as mpeg 2 video/audio files.

What I do is use Nero Recode, encode the file, save it as a folder on my pc then paste the file onto SuperV2006 - which is a multi-file encoder application. I convert the output content to Mpeg 2 and it encodes the file, keeps the h264 code intact and I can play it on my tv. The encoding time is slow compated to Nero Recode but it does seem to work. And the image is in high definition - over 5500 kbps.
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Just a quick update. I've switched over to Xvid codec. It's far quicker at encoding than H264 (encodes at half the time) and I get no problem with burning the file. I don't notice any difference in picture resolution - I am encoding at 7000 - 9000 kbps and the vid resolution looks as clear as H264 - so thank you, Xvid. You've come to my rescue.

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Could you explain in simple terms how to burn an h264 file using Nero Recode so you can play it on a standard dvd player?
no standalone player supports H264 just yet

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I convert the output content to Mpeg 2 and it encodes the file, keeps the h264 code intact and I can play it on my tv
the file is no longer H264, but mpeg2

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And the image is in high definition - over 5500 kbps.
bitrate does not determine whether a video is high definition or not, resolution and framerate does. since you say it's playable on a standalone, the max it can go is 720x576, and that's SD (standard definition). also 5mbps is fairly standard with DVDs

nero_fan, it looks like you're encoding twice, once to mpeg4, and back to mpeg2. this is entirely unnecessary, as recode or dvd shrink can do it all in far less time, effort and preserving quality.
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Old 27 Dec 2006, 08:09 AM   #12
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Anonymez, I found the solution!

http://www.vso-software.fr/products/convert_x_to_dvd/

That software converts H264 codec to vob and then you can burn the vob files onto a dvd and play them on any dvd player. It retains the high def codec. Pretty amazing technology.

I only found out about H264 and the other codecs about two weeks ago. I downloaded some Apple movie trailers in HD and they looked amazing. I clicked an Apple link and read 'you can watch HD movies on your PC.' I never knew that. LOL! Very suprised to know that - happily surprised. My days of watching standard definition movies have come to an end. I don't possess a high definition tv but I have seen some hd clips on my smaller tv screen and it does look very impressive.



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SD is SD, SD is not HD. You sound like someone saying that they are listening music in CD quality thru an AM station because the station plays CDs.

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Just like to clarify my earlier point. I burnt some Apple trailers to DVD and played them on my standard res tv and the images were some of the best I've ever seen. But yes, I accept it's still standard and not high definition! Given a choice, I'd rather watch films/trailers etc on an HD tv and not my current SD tv.
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