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Old 25 Jan 2007, 06:15 PM   #1
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i just got nero 7 ultra enhanced and i was wondering is it better to use ripit4me with fixit and the decryptor and shrink, or is it better to just use the decryptor with nero recode and its burner, is there any difference, am i able to use shrink with nero 7? any thoughts people.
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Suggest that you use Ripit4me and after that the process is done you shut down DVD Shrink and load the files in Nero Recode 2 instead. It will be a faster process to shrink the movies in this program than in DVD Shrink. The result will be the same - but you will save some time.

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Keep in mind Recode does not save the iso in case you might want to burn from it again. DVD Shrink does. Recode uses Nero to burn, DVD shrink uses either DVDD or Imgburn. DVD Shrink is auto hooked to RipIt4Me, Recode has to be done manually. It's all comes down to personal preferences, what a particular combination someone might use, someone else may use a different one.

Recode is a tad quicker but not anything to write home about. I can encode a DVD (with no compression) with DVD Shrink in less than 2 minutes on my system. I doubt Recode is going to improve on that very much. I'd guess if DVD Shrink took 6 minutes to encode, Recode might shave 30 seconds off that. If you have a dual processor, it's going to be no sweat for either one.
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Keep in mind Recode does not save the iso in case you might want to burn from it again. DVD Shrink does
He can use imgburn after he uses recode all he has to do is use rebuild mode. He can use the files recode makes as many times as he wants

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It is a lot quicker the Shrink and the picture quality is just as good as Shrink just make sure you have best quality set


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I can encode a DVD (with no compression) with DVD Shrink in less than 2 minutes on my system
You shouldn't have to encode a movie that needs no compression especially if your using ripit4me you can go into ripit4me settings and have it put the movie out as an ISO and then burn it
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I use DVD Shrink even for no compression to remove anything I don't want such as audio, credits, etc so it is still necessary for me.

Define a lot quicker. I gave an example. Give your own if you dispute the estimated times I gave.

Your example of using Imgburn to re-burn the VIDEO_TS folder does not take into account having to compress or re-author, so it's going to limited to when you could use it.

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Your example of using Imgburn to re-burn the VIDEO_TS folder does not take into account having to compress or re-author, so it's going to limited to when you could use it.
Not sure what you mean by saying that IMGBurn would be limited in it's use. IMGBurn can be used in place of Nero BurningRom in every instance.

You can use Nero BurningRom with DVDshrink and IMGBurn with Recode and vice versa. You agree with that right?
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Read it again to see what I had responded to. I was making a specific point in response to what someone had said regarding Recode not saving the iso like DVD Shrink does and re-burning from it.

I had stated that Recode does not save the iso like DVD Shrink does so reburning from the iso (right click on it and burn with Imgburn) was an option DVD Shrink had and Recode didn't.

The response from someone was that Imgburn could burn from the Video_TS in build mode.

My response to that was what you had quoted.

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The response from someone was that Imgburn could burn from the Video_TS in build mode.
When the DVD is in Video_TS imgburns build mode turns the DVD files to ISO so Imgburn can burn it.And when you use Nero to burn you can use either Nero Burning ROM to burn your ISOs or you can choose not to put your movie in iso and burn the DVD in File Mode,so the way I see it it's far from limited.As for the time difference with shrink and recode Shrink is 10-15 min slower then recode 2.You have to keep in mind that not everybody strips there DVD to the bone By the way I do use a Pentium D

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Your example of using Imgburn to re-burn the VIDEO_TS folder does not take into account having to compress or re-author, so it's going to limited to when you could use it.
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The response from someone was that Imgburn could burn from the Video_TS in build mode.

My response to that was what you had quoted.
Whay, may I ask?, would you need to compress and re-author again when you want to re-burn a Video_TS output from Recode with IMGBurn?
That's what I'm reading from your quote...No?

I still haven't understood what you mean by 'limited'..
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Let's try this again. DVD Shrink saves the iso it made from the Video_TS folder. Keep in mind this includes any compression and re-authoring that was done through DVD Shrink. The resulting iso would be much smaller than the size of the Video_TS folder (if compressing and re-authoring was done to it). If doing this same thing with Recode 2, the iso is not saved. So if you wanted to burn that movie again (with the compression and reauthoring done) with Recode 2, using the Build mode of Imgburn would not be the same thing because that Video_TS folder would not be compressed or re-authored. I thought I made it clear the first time I said it, I hope this one is better. That's what I meant by my reference of limited. If you were burning the full movie with no compression or re-authoring on a dual layer disk, then this would not be an issue. Most people I know don't do this (burning an actual 1 to 1 copy).

The 10 to 15 minutes faster with Recode. I don't know how you come up with that figure. Movies on my system using DVD Shrink don't even take 15 minutes. It's under 2 minutes for a movie with no compression (that will fit on a single layer disk) and maybe 10 minutes tops with high compression counting both analyzing and encoding passes. Analyzing with DVD Shrink is no slower than Recode. Recode's encoding is faster but I dispute your estimates of how much faster.

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using the Build mode of Imgburn would not be the same thing because that Video_TS folder would not be compressed or re-authored
Yes it would be compressed recode acts just like Shrink. Yes your right shrink gives you the option to put it in iso but it will also shrink it in file mode showing all the vobs and ifos.This is what recode 2 does but unlike shrink you don't have an iso option but none the less it is compressed to 4.30 gigs

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The 10 to 15 minutes faster with Recode. I sure don't know how you come up with that figure. No movie takes my system using DVD Shrink over 10 minutes period
Dispute all you want but I hate to tell you it's true and accurate. I am not in the habit of giving bad information just to prove some one wrong if am wrong I will admit it My guess is you don't use Deep analysis with shrink

or high quality with recode.Like I said not everyone removes all the extras on the DVD

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Sorry Mike, but I lost you...can't make any sense of what you're trying to say.

As BR7 stated IMGBurn can burn either a Shrink output or a Recode output, and as many copies as you want. ISO or VIDEO_TS...don't matter. Once you encode thru either Shrink or Recode once, whether to an ISO output or a VIDEO_TS output, you will be able to burn to disc as many times as you want without encoding again.
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