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Old 2 Apr 2007, 04:16 AM   #1
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Hello,

I have a problem each time I'm using DVD Rebuilder while rebuilding: it always says that there is 1 possible dropped frame for each m2v segment. My computer is not overclocked.


Here is the log:
[18:07:56] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 2 CELLID 2
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 2 CELLID 3
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 4 VOBID 2 CELLID 4
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 5 VOBID 2 CELLID 5
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 6 VOBID 2 CELLID 6
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 7 VOBID 2 CELLID 7
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 8 VOBID 2 CELLID 8
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 9 VOBID 2 CELLID 9
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 10 VOBID 2 CELLID 10
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 11 VOBID 2 CELLID 11
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 12 VOBID 2 CELLID 12
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding seg 13 VOBID 3 CELLID 1
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 14 VOBID 3 CELLID 2
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 15 VOBID 3 CELLID 3
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 16 VOBID 3 CELLID 4
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 17 VOBID 3 CELLID 5
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 18 VOBID 3 CELLID 6
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 19 VOBID 3 CELLID 7
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 20 VOBID 3 CELLID 8
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 21 VOBID 3 CELLID 9
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 22 VOBID 3 CELLID 10
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 23 VOBID 3 CELLID 11
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 24 VOBID 3 CELLID 12
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding seg 25 VOBID 4 CELLID 1
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 26 VOBID 4 CELLID 2
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 27 VOBID 4 CELLID 3
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 28 VOBID 4 CELLID 4
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 29 VOBID 4 CELLID 5
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 30 VOBID 4 CELLID 6
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 31 VOBID 4 CELLID 7
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 32 VOBID 4 CELLID 8
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 33 VOBID 4 CELLID 9
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 34 VOBID 4 CELLID 10
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 35 VOBID 4 CELLID 11
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 36 VOBID 4 CELLID 12
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding seg 37 VOBID 5 CELLID 1
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 38 VOBID 5 CELLID 2
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 39 VOBID 5 CELLID 3
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 40 VOBID 5 CELLID 4
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 41 VOBID 5 CELLID 5
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 42 VOBID 5 CELLID 6
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 43 VOBID 5 CELLID 7
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 44 VOBID 5 CELLID 8
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 45 VOBID 5 CELLID 9
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 46 VOBID 5 CELLID 10
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 47 VOBID 5 CELLID 11
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Rebuilding seg 48 VOBID 5 CELLID 12
- Possible dropped frame(s) [ 1 ] noted in this segment, continuing...
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_01_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_02
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 3 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 4 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Rebuilding seg 4 VOBID 5 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_05
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Processing VTS_05
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 3 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_03
- Rebuilding seg 3 VOBID 4 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_04
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_05_0.IFO
- Updating TMAP table...
- Correcting VTS Sectors...
[18:36:20] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 29 minutes.
Done.

Before using DVD Rebuilder, I rip the DVD with RipIt4Me, clean up the vobs, and make it jump to the first valid menu. The result will be the source for DVD Rebuilder. I use CCE SP Trial 2.67, One Pass VBR w/ Analysis and enable Menu Encoding.

So my questions are:
- Why do I get this message for every segments with the [1] value ?
- Will it affect the DVD playback ?
- What I can do to solve this "Possible Dropped Frame" issue ?


Thanks !

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Old 2 Apr 2007, 05:31 AM   #2
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When DVD-RB scans the source during PREPARE it counts the frames in each segment. Then when it does the REBUILD it again counts the frames to make sure the encode went correctly and it matches the original. Something is going on in your configuration that is chopping a frame off of each segment.

Do a "Display Versions" from the HELP menu and post it so I can see what software is in use. Also, try it without any editing and see how it comes out.

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Old 2 Apr 2007, 07:41 PM   #3
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Hello jdobbs, here are the programs versions

- Versions :
-- Rebuilder: v1.22.0
-- CCE SP, ECLCCE reported version: 2.62+
-- ReJig Version: 0.5.0.5
-- QuEnc Version: 0.7.1.0
-- HC Version: 0.19.0.1
-- DGDECODE Version: 1.4.5
-- AVISYNTH: 2.5.5.0

I'll try as you suggested to encode the DVD without any editing.
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We are now at version 1.23.3 - perhaps updating is your first course of action.

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I updated, just ran a DVD rebuilding task and I still have this problem with the new version :/
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Old 3 Apr 2007, 07:14 AM   #6
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I just ripped a DVD with DVD Decrypter (so no RipIt4Me or pre processing) and rebuilt it after having mounted the iso in deamon tools. Well, the problem still remains !
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What disc are you trying to do? I'll pick it up and give it a run if its NTSC. It has to be something exceptionally odd about that particular disc.

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Very slow.

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Old 5 Apr 2007, 11:41 PM   #9
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Hello ! It looks like it had something to do with my version of CCE.

Thanks

However, there is something I don't understand with the editor:
after the prepare phase, DVD Rebuilder has determined the Q and I can then remove segments or play with the compression ratio in the editor. If I start the encoding/rebuilding process without any editing and with a compression ratio of 50% (ie the default one), I'll get a final VIDEO_TS dir of 4.16GB

But if I change the compression ratio value for, let's say, only the main movie and raise it by 7 or 10 points (50% --> 60%) the final output size will still be 4.16GB !? Just as if the editor blanked the videos but didn't take into consideration my modifications of the comp ratio value. Do you have any idea ?

Thanks in advance!

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The editor doesn't currently support one-pass-vbr encoding. That's because it would have to do the entire prediction routine over again every time you make a change. The encode will be done with the original Q value no matter what you change.
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Thanks for your answer. So in this case, it's pointless to remove extras to save space for the main movie
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Yes, unless you are removing advertisements etc. just because you don't like them.

If you are using OPV and you remove 200M in extras and the OPV sizing is perfect -- you'll end up 200M undersized.

I've thought about adding OPV resampling to the editor. Maybe I'll add that. But, the problem with prediction passes is that once you've done it a few times you've come close to spending as much time as you would have doing a first pass... and that defeats the purpose.
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