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  • Dan
    Digital Video Master
    Digital Video Master
    • Dec 2005
    • 1029

    I have been scanning some burns this morning with the new CD-DVD Speed 4.7.5.0 and I noticed the Disc Quality to be quite quirky.

    Changes in Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.5.0

    Added TA jitter test for recent LiteOn drives
    - Added support for DVD-RW DL and DVD+RW DL
    - Disc Quality Test
    · Improved jitter reporting for LiteOn drives
    · Added recorder information in statistics window
    · PI/PIF averages calculated differently
    - Added support for hybrid discs
    - File dialogs are resizable
    - Small improvements and bug fixes

    The PIF averages caculated differently is the new change that I'm thinking is causing the different scans on my SH182D. I haven't tried any scans on the NEC 3550, maybe it will like the changes.

    Looks like mostly updates for Lite-On folks though.
    Anyone else have a chance to try the new version, any good or bad results, let me know please.

    Here is the same burn with scan on CD-DVD Speed 4.7.0.2 and CD-DVD Speed 4.7.5.0.
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    Last edited by Dan; 10 Mar 2007, 02:44 AM.

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    • Chewy
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 18971

      to really test it, you would have to do 2 scans with older version, then 2 scans with the newer version to rule out the effect of scanning irregularity with the samsung, not sure their firmware/hardware is quite up to snuff like liteon with quality scanning

      the samsung is better known for the quality of burns and construction

      testing the new version with my benq right now

      the averages go way down with pie and pif?????????????????

      and pie totals go way down

      glad I kept the old version
      Last edited by Chewy; 10 Mar 2007, 02:41 AM.

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      • Dan
        Digital Video Master
        Digital Video Master
        • Dec 2005
        • 1029

        Okay Chewy thanks.

        I have another issue now, here is the error I receive at the end of the scan. The scan does complete however.

        Perhaps I will revert back to the other version, I liked it quite well,lol.
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        • Chewy
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18971

          durn this is as bad as the buggy dvdinfopro free program

          I am deleting the new version of cdspeed

          better to stay a few versions behind and avoid buggy beta releases

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          • Dan
            Digital Video Master
            Digital Video Master
            • Dec 2005
            • 1029

            I'm sure it is great with some burners as we know it was always nice to the NEC in handing out a QS of 99 quite often.

            I believe that error I received may be due to the fact that my Samsung isn't officially supported by CD-DVD scan. For that reason I won't use it anymore.

            I tried a few 99 scans in the NEC, still nice low PIF but the PIE is going crazy on me. I'm convinced the new version is for Lite-On or other specific burners out there, the odd ball and older burners may not fair as well,lol.
            Last edited by Dan; 10 Mar 2007, 03:13 AM.

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            • Chewy
              Super Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 18971

              but the PIE is going crazy on me
              nec's tend to exaggerate pie's real bad, I ignore them when using an nec to scan

              the pif's are the result of pie's and my nec scans of good burns correlate to
              my benq scans if I just look at the pif

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              • beachbumm33
                Digital Video Enthusiast
                Digital Video Enthusiast
                • Feb 2007
                • 380

                the only notable difference seems to be the PIE average
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                • Dan
                  Digital Video Master
                  Digital Video Master
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 1029

                  Seems like the new version had little if any effect on the Lite-On, expected as much.

                  Back to old version with new firmware, things are looking like they should again.

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                  • beachbumm33
                    Digital Video Enthusiast
                    Digital Video Enthusiast
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 380

                    I believe I'll keep using the older version, seems odd that the PIE totals are almost the same, but the average is much lower with the new version.....seems the older version shows a more accurate PIE average.

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                    • Chewy
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 18971

                      it's not really an issue unless you are comparing scans done with different versions of cdspeed

                      new version is probably more accurate for the pie average


                      now if erik would just fix the quality score calculation

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                      • soup
                        Just Trying To Help
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 7524

                        New version.

                        This is with 4.7.0.2.

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                        This is with 4.7.5.0.

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                        Last edited by soup; 10 Mar 2007, 07:30 AM.

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                        • Dan
                          Digital Video Master
                          Digital Video Master
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 1029

                          Ahh, so a similar burner with the same error code. Glad it isn't just me!

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                          • Chewy
                            Super Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 18971

                            well at least the totals are consistent and regular, damn, I like just looking at the pie average

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                            • soup
                              Just Trying To Help
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 7524

                              Are you going to be okay Chewy?

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                              • Dan
                                Digital Video Master
                                Digital Video Master
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 1029

                                Well that is a nice PIE average in the updated version compared to the other,lol.

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