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  • UncasMS
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2001
    • 9047

    #61
    you're right, elizerrojas, they deserve a thanks every other day
    ^_~

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    • jeo
      Digital Video Expert
      Digital Video Expert
      • Feb 2004
      • 745

      #62
      thanks UncasMS,
      cool thread,good surprises in the results.
      (cool thread when remove my posts later)

      as jdobbs wrote today:
      CCEAQM may create in incompatible stream.That's why it is only available as a "hidden" option. When you buy a new player for Christmas and your backup doesn't play right -- please don't blame DVD-RB. Deciding to use AQM was your choice.
      ...i'm afraid too.

      can you please use CCE alone as encoder(all default without aqe,etc) and post the results?

      regards
      still sending greens(you can't see but can feel)

      geriatric rock fan

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      • UncasMS
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2001
        • 9047

        #63
        can you please use CCE alone as encoder(all default without aqe,etc) and post the results?
        sure thing, no big deal

        maybe i will test nic's quenc 062 experimental release before


        the cce compatibility issue using aqm has been mentioned before - autoqmatenc is said to be dvd compliant however using this feature

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        • jeo
          Digital Video Expert
          Digital Video Expert
          • Feb 2004
          • 745

          #64
          all right.

          now i'm "afraid" to use HC and trash my old CCE2.5 after see the result.

          regards
          still sending greens(you can't see but can feel)

          geriatric rock fan

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          • UncasMS
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2001
            • 9047

            #65
            why afraid to use hc?

            it looked better than cce 270 in most cases

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            • jeo
              Digital Video Expert
              Digital Video Expert
              • Feb 2004
              • 745

              #66
              Originally Posted by UncasMS
              why afraid to use hc?

              it looked better than cce 270 in most cases
              afraid to use HC? no more! is really better in the pictures.
              i'm afraid to trash CCE after use HC.
              (was a joke(was?),you don't understood)

              what do you thing if i encode the fifth element with cce and with HC?
              i know 5th element that don't need compression(the movie,not the "girl" )and RB advice about it when you start.
              it's only for test to see what will happen.
              is one valid test?

              regards
              still sending greens(you can't see but can feel)

              geriatric rock fan

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              • UncasMS
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2001
                • 9047

                #67
                well i cannot judge your version of 5th element

                the version i know holds a very massive dts soundstream among other audio streams

                of course it will be a decisive factor if you skip dts or keep it

                all in all the length and the amount of action scenes make the difference; and 5th element should hold enough action to give it a try

                rebuilder will state the (average)bitrates if you like - simply UNtick the *1click* option and hit prepare (or abort after preparation when using *1click*)

                something like this will turn up:
                - HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 3.993/600/3.178 Kbs
                an average of 3000kbps or less should make difference visible more easily because at 4000kbps one will seldom see differences between the encoders

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                • jeo
                  Digital Video Expert
                  Digital Video Expert
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 745

                  #68
                  rebuilder will state the (average)bitrates if you like - simply UNtick the *1click* option and hit prepare
                  after hit prepare came one advice and here is not the right place to post about it i think.
                  can i open a new thread with all details from my dvd and what will be selected to test?

                  thanks.
                  still sending greens(you can't see but can feel)

                  geriatric rock fan

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                  • UncasMS
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 9047

                    #69
                    help yourself to a new thread

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                    • jeo
                      Digital Video Expert
                      Digital Video Expert
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 745

                      #70
                      Originally Posted by UncasMS
                      help yourself to a new thread
                      it's done,thanks
                      still sending greens(you can't see but can feel)

                      geriatric rock fan

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                      • UncasMS
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 9047

                        #71
                        cc 270 WITHOUT aqm:


                        1.


                        2.


                        3.


                        4.


                        5.



                        the results surprise me a little bit as the first 4 pictures are IDENTICAL!
                        only number 5 shows slight differences at two spots and i cannot even say that one of the two looks better or worse

                        in other words: what was this aqm good for?
                        i dont see anything changed and thus no good reason to use it when this features takes quite an additional time

                        cce with aqm: 139 min
                        cce without aqm: 127 min WHILE USING THE PC!

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                        • jeo
                          Digital Video Expert
                          Digital Video Expert
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 745

                          #72
                          what was this aqm good for?
                          you got my words friend.
                          this is what i was trying to post.... and i ask more

                          regards.
                          still sending greens(you can't see but can feel)

                          geriatric rock fan

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                          • ajp
                            Platinum Member
                            Platinum Member
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 183

                            #73
                            Just wanted to say thanks for this thread. I have been thinking about going beyond DVD Shrink, and but didn't know what to pick. I also was very impressed with HC for a freebie.

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                            • Webslingerac
                              Junior Member
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 13

                              #74
                              Originally Posted by UncasMS
                              another transcoder - another set of screenshots - a new speed record: 13min transcoding time

                              it is clonedvd 2.5 this time:
                              I just wanted to clarify: this is ELBY.CH's Clonedvd 2 (or Slysoft.com's), correct--and not the one from http://clonedvd.net ?

                              If so, it seems to me you should have been using Version 2.8.5.1 of Clonedvd 2 from elby.ch--and not version 2.5 (given 2.8.5.1 was out since July 2005).
                              Last edited by Webslingerac; 10 Jan 2006, 05:39 AM.

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                              • UncasMS
                                Super Moderator
                                • Nov 2001
                                • 9047

                                #75
                                it is the elby.ch version 2.5.3.3

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