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  • Marcia
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 9

    Splitting "headache"?

    Hi,

    I've been spending hours and hours trying to split TROY using IfoEdit. The Guide shows an option"Remove Seamless Br.". TROY has two versions on the DVD, one English and one French. When I check the box to remove seamless branching so that the lanquages don't overlap, once I get to the point where I click on Split It a screen pops up with several files checked and offers me the oportunity to "Strip It"!? If I do this then the files won't burn because of a file reallocation error. This is not covered in the Guide. Please help.

    Frustratedly,

    Marcia
  • blutach
    Not a god of digital video
    • Oct 2004
    • 24627

    #2
    Are you sure there's two versions and not just two languages? This would be unusual. The only time there are 2 versions is when there's a widescreen version and a fullscreen version.

    The languages are muxed into the title PGC - all of them (up to 8). Sometimes, you will see a second title that exactly replicates the first in terms of VOB and Cell IDs used. This can be used, for example, for director's comments, which can branch off to other bits of the disk (non-seamlessly of course) to illustrate what they are talking about (in almost all cases, the director's comments are muxed into the title as above).

    The strip it option is simply to remove a language. I would not do anything about the seamless branching. I think it's a bit of a smokescreen. But, can you post a pic of your IfoEdit summary for that VTS please. I want to look at the VC IDs.

    If there are VOBIDs to remove, perhaps doing that first will help, followed by the split.

    Don't worry - we'll get you there; I've done lotsa splits, all successful, OK?

    Thanks and regards
    Last edited by blutach; 27 Jan 2005, 02:13 PM.
    Les

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    • Marcia
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 9

      #3
      Thank you Les,

      The Strip It option came after the Seamless Branching option. I'd tried to split the movie without this but the two lanquages (yes, you are correct, not two versions) overlapped!? After doing the branching the files played using Power DVD but would give the File Reallocation error when I tried to burn with both Nero 6 and DVD Decrypter. I went ahead and burned an image from Image Tool but now have a coaster in the waste can.

      Below is a lot of info. Not sure if this is what you want. Sorry to be so bothersome. I'll have to send three posts to accomodate all the stuff.

      Marci

      TROY
      Ripped with
      DVD Decrypter

      VIDEO_TS.BUP
      10kb
      VIDEO_TS.IFO
      10kb
      VTS_01_0.BUP
      120kb
      VTS_01_0.IFO
      120kb
      VTS_01_0.VOB
      156,884 kb
      VTS_01_1.VOB
      1,048,574 kb
      VTS_01_2.VOB
      1,048,574 kb
      VTS_01_3.VOB
      1,048,574 kb
      VTS_01_4.VOB
      779,774kb
      VTS_01_5.VOB
      1,048,574 kb
      VTS_01_6.VOB
      1,048,574 kb
      VTS_01_7.VOB
      1,048,574 kb
      VTS_01_8.VOB
      358,990kb

      Created with
      IfoEdit

      Disc 1
      VIDEO_TS.BUP
      10kb
      VIDEO_TS.IFO
      10kb
      VIDEO_TS.VOB
      0kb
      VTS_01_0.BUP
      82kb
      VTS_01_0.IFO
      82kb
      VTS_01_0.VOB
      156,884kb
      VTS_01_1.VOB
      665,546kb
      VTS_01_2.VOB
      665,480kb
      VTS_01_3.VOB
      665,392kb
      VTS_01_4.VOB
      665,526kb
      VTS_01_5.VOB
      665,296kb
      VTS_01_6.VOB
      541,302kb

      VIDEO_TS.IFO

      VMG Overview:

      Video Manager Menu attributes:
      Video: MPEG-1 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (4:3) (pan-scan & letterboxed)

      Number of Title Play Maps: 6 (VMG_PTT_SRPT)
      Title 1: VTS_01_*, TTN_1 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 44) (Start Sector 19)
      Title 2: VTS_01_*, TTN_2 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 1) (Start Sector 19)
      Title 3: VTS_01_*, TTN_3 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 1) (Start Sector 19)
      Title 4: VTS_01_*, TTN_4 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 1) (Start Sector 19)
      Title 5: VTS_01_*, TTN_5 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 44) (Start Sector 19)
      Title 6: VTS_01_*, TTN_6 (Angles: 1) (Chapters: 1) (Start Sector 19)

      Number of Video Title Sets on this DVD: 1 (VMG_VTS_ATRT)
      Title Set 1:
      VTS_1 Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)
      VTS_1 Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC
      VTS_1 Audio 2: Français (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC
      VTS_1 SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle )
      VTS_1 SubPicture 2: Français (2-bit rle )
      VTS_1 SubPicture 3: Español (2-bit rle )


      First play PGC: (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

      Menu Language Units: 1
      Language Menu Unit 1: []

      Language Menu Unit 1: []
      Menu 1: [Title-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

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      • Marcia
        Junior Member
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2005
        • 9

        #4
        Part 2

        VTS_01_0.IFO Disc 1


        VTS overview:

        Menu attributes:
        Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (pan-scan)
        Audio 1: Not Specified (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC
        SubPicture 1: Not Specified (2-bit rle )

        Title Set (Movie) attributes:
        Video: MPEG-2 720x480 (NTSC) (NTSC 525/60) (16:9) (letterboxed)
        Audio 1: English (Dolby AC-3) 6ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)
        Audio 2: Français (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x81)
        SubPicture 1: English (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x20,0x21)
        SubPicture 2: Français (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x22,0x23)
        SubPicture 3: Español (2-bit rle ) (ID: 0x24,0x25)

        PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [01:25:49.21 / 30 fps] (Programs: 24) (Cells: 26) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,2,3)
        [Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:31.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:31.15] [Frames: 2745] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[ no/ no/yes/ no]
        [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:00:02.00 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:01:33.15] [Frames: 2805] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:00:28.05 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:02:01.20] [Frames: 3650] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
        [Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] : time: 00:04:42.16 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:06:44.06] [Frames: 12126] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
        [Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 3/ 2] : time: 00:02:37.14 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:09:21.20] [Frames: 16850] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 3/ 3] : time: 00:05:10.00 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:14:31.20] [Frames: 26150] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 3/ 4] : time: 00:04:54.00 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:19:25.20] [Frames: 34970] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 08] [V/C Id: 3/ 5] : time: 00:01:48.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:21:14.10] [Frames: 38230] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 09] [V/C Id: 3/ 6] : time: 00:03:15.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:24:29.20] [Frames: 44090] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 08] [Pg 08] [Cell 10] [V/C Id: 3/ 7] : time: 00:02:54.25 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:27:24.15] [Frames: 49335] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 09] [Pg 09] [Cell 11] [V/C Id: 3/ 8] : time: 00:02:51.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:30:16.00] [Frames: 54480] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 10] [Pg 10] [Cell 12] [V/C Id: 3/ 9] : time: 00:03:18.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:33:34.20] [Frames: 60440] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 11] [Pg 11] [Cell 13] [V/C Id: 3/10] : time: 00:05:52.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:39:27.11] [Frames: 71021] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 12] [Pg 12] [Cell 14] [V/C Id: 3/11] : time: 00:04:32.24 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:44:00.05] [Frames: 79205] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 13] [Pg 13] [Cell 15] [V/C Id: 3/12] : time: 00:04:51.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:48:51.26] [Frames: 87956] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 14] [Pg 14] [Cell 16] [V/C Id: 3/13] : time: 00:03:40.29 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:52:32.25] [Frames: 94585] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 15] [Pg 15] [Cell 17] [V/C Id: 3/14] : time: 00:04:16.16 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:56:49.11] [Frames: 102281] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 16] [Pg 16] [Cell 18] [V/C Id: 3/15] : time: 00:03:35.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:00:24.20] [Frames: 108740] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 17] [Pg 17] [Cell 19] [V/C Id: 3/16] : time: 00:02:53.05 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:03:17.25] [Frames: 113935] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 18] [Pg 18] [Cell 20] [V/C Id: 3/17] : time: 00:01:59.11 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:05:17.06] [Frames: 117516] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 19] [Pg 19] [Cell 21] [V/C Id: 3/18] : time: 00:04:15.14 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:09:32.20] [Frames: 125180] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 20] [Pg 20] [Cell 22] [V/C Id: 3/19] : time: 00:03:11.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:12:44.05] [Frames: 130925] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 21] [Pg 21] [Cell 23] [V/C Id: 3/20] : time: 00:04:35.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:17:19.26] [Frames: 139196] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 22] [Pg 22] [Cell 24] [V/C Id: 3/21] : time: 00:03:36.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:20:56.05] [Frames: 145685] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 23] [Pg 23] [Cell 25] [V/C Id: 3/22] : time: 00:02:35.06 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:23:31.11] [Frames: 150341] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 24] [Pg 24] [Cell 26] [V/C Id: 3/23] : time: 00:02:18.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:25:49.21] [Frames: 154491] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]

        PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:00:00.00 / 30 fps] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

        PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:00:00.00 / 30 fps] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

        PGC_4 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 4] [00:00:00.00 / 30 fps] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

        PGC_5 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 5] [01:24:16.06 / 30 fps] (Programs: 24) (Cells: 24) (uses VOB-IDs: 2,3)
        [Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:00:28.05 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:00:28.05] [Frames: 845] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
        [Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] : time: 00:04:42.16 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:05:10.21] [Frames: 9321] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/yes/ no]
        [Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 3/ 2] : time: 00:02:37.14 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:07:48.05] [Frames: 14045] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 3/ 3] : time: 00:05:10.00 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:12:58.05] [Frames: 23345] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 3/ 4] : time: 00:04:54.00 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:17:52.05] [Frames: 32165] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 3/ 5] : time: 00:01:48.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:19:40.25] [Frames: 35425] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 3/ 6] : time: 00:03:15.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:22:56.05] [Frames: 41285] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 08] [Pg 08] [Cell 08] [V/C Id: 3/ 7] : time: 00:02:54.25 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:25:51.00] [Frames: 46530] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 09] [Pg 09] [Cell 09] [V/C Id: 3/ 8] : time: 00:02:51.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:28:42.15] [Frames: 51675] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 10] [Pg 10] [Cell 10] [V/C Id: 3/ 9] : time: 00:03:18.20 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:32:01.05] [Frames: 57635] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 11] [Pg 11] [Cell 11] [V/C Id: 3/10] : time: 00:05:52.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:37:53.26] [Frames: 68216] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 12] [Pg 12] [Cell 12] [V/C Id: 3/11] : time: 00:04:32.24 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:42:26.20] [Frames: 76400] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 13] [Pg 13] [Cell 13] [V/C Id: 3/12] : time: 00:04:51.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:47:18.11] [Frames: 85151] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 14] [Pg 14] [Cell 14] [V/C Id: 3/13] : time: 00:03:40.29 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:50:59.10] [Frames: 91780] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 15] [Pg 15] [Cell 15] [V/C Id: 3/14] : time: 00:04:16.16 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:55:15.26] [Frames: 99476] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 16] [Pg 16] [Cell 16] [V/C Id: 3/15] : time: 00:03:35.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 00:58:51.05] [Frames: 105935] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 17] [Pg 17] [Cell 17] [V/C Id: 3/16] : time: 00:02:53.05 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:01:44.10] [Frames: 111130] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 18] [Pg 18] [Cell 18] [V/C Id: 3/17] : time: 00:01:59.11 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:03:43.21] [Frames: 114711] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 19] [Pg 19] [Cell 19] [V/C Id: 3/18] : time: 00:04:15.14 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:07:59.05] [Frames: 122375] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 20] [Pg 20] [Cell 20] [V/C Id: 3/19] : time: 00:03:11.15 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:11:10.20] [Frames: 128120] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 21] [Pg 21] [Cell 21] [V/C Id: 3/20] : time: 00:04:35.21 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:15:46.11] [Frames: 136391] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 22] [Pg 22] [Cell 22] [V/C Id: 3/21] : time: 00:03:36.09 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:19:22.20] [Frames: 142880] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 23] [Pg 23] [Cell 23] [V/C Id: 3/22] : time: 00:02:35.06 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:21:57.26] [Frames: 147536] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]
        [Ch 24] [Pg 24] [Cell 24] [V/C Id: 3/23] : time: 00:02:18.10 / 30 fps [Pos: 01:24:16.06] [Frames: 151686] SP/ILVU/DISC/SA:[yes/ no/ no/ no]

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        • Marcia
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 9

          #5
          Part 3

          (I left out all of the disc 2 info)


          PGC_6 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 6] [00:00:00.00 / 30 fps] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

          Menu Language Units: 2
          Language Menu Unit 1: [English]
          Language Menu Unit 2: [Français]

          Language Menu Unit 1: [English]
          Menu 1: [Root-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 3) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
          Menu 2: [entry only] (Programs: 8) (Cells: 8) (uses VOB-IDs: 2)
          Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 3)
          Menu 4: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 5: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 6: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 4)
          Menu 7: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 8: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 9: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 5)
          Menu 10: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 6)
          Menu 11: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 7)
          Menu 12: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 8)
          Menu 13: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

          Language Menu Unit 2: [Français]
          Menu 1: [Root-Menu] (entry PGC) (Programs: 3) (Cells: 3) (uses VOB-IDs: 9)
          Menu 2: [entry only] (Programs: 8) (Cells: 8) (uses VOB-IDs: 10)
          Menu 3: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 11)
          Menu 4: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 5: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 6: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 12)
          Menu 7: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 8: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)
          Menu 9: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 13)
          Menu 10: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 14)
          Menu 11: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 15)
          Menu 12: [entry only] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 16)
          Menu 13: [entry only] (Programs: 0) (Cells: 0)

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          • blutach
            Not a god of digital video
            • Oct 2004
            • 24627

            #6
            Hi Marcia. This is what's happening here.

            Title 1 and title 5 share much the same things. See, they both have VOB IDs 2 and 3, while title 1 also has VOBID 1?

            Title 1 has an extra 1 min and 33 seconds tacked on to the start. Dunno what that is, maybe some intro in a foreign language. It might be interesting for you to watch title 1 in a software player (IfoEdit's will be good enough) to see if you need that title at all.

            Obviously, the seamless branching occurs at VOBID 2.

            Now, if you decide not to keep the start of title 1, you can actually strip VOBID 1 out with IfoEdit. Titles 1 and 5 will be the same. This is irrelevant. Then there would be no seamless branch to get in your way. But, it looks like IfoEdit has kept things nicely.

            Titles 2, 3, 4 and 6 appear to share cells with title 1 (see, they all start at sector 19?). Not sure what these are, but I bet on the original disk (unsplit) they don't say 0 cells. My best guess is that they are all VOBID 1 and last 1 min 31 secs. These titles, if not present, can give trouble (unless we bypass them), and so should be on disk 1.

            Otherwise, disk 1 looks OK - it has the first 24 chapters of 44. Disk 2 should have the other 20. You can keep the French in, it doesn't matter - the whole lot will comfortably fit on 2 disks.

            Do you have Disk 2's info and that of the unsplit disk?

            Don't worry about posting menu info - it is not relevant for now.

            That should be enough for now.

            Regards
            Last edited by blutach; 28 Jan 2005, 08:12 PM.
            Les

            Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

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            • Marcia
              Junior Member
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2005
              • 9

              #7
              Hi Les,

              Ooo, this is all so technical to me. Sorry. I'm not sure what to send and what not to from disc 2.
              Please let me recap what happened. I first stripped, then split the movie TROY. (maybe someone could try doing the same?). There were no reallocation errors. However, as per the guide, I watched the files in Power DVD. What I mean by 'overlapped' is that the introductory text in the first 3 minutes of the stripped VTS_01_1.VOB show English, then a second or two later French, then English, then Spanish. The movie pixelates and jerks. After the first 3 minutes, the sound smooths out, but the picture in ALL the VOBs jerks and jumps about every 15 seconds.

              It was after this that I resplit using the branching option.

              I've deleted everything, then stripped again, then split again. I've done this four times. This has taken many hours. Still, the overlap and jerkiness continue in both the stripped files and the two disc files.

              Is there a step-by-step process I can use to eliminate this problem? I don't want to waste discs...nor time, yours or mine.

              Maybe, as I'd suggested, someone might try to split this particular movie and see if they have the same problem.

              I finally used DVD Shrink and made a disc of the main title (there are two of them, both more than 7G). I did the first title. The compression ratio is just under 62%. The movie plays fine and in only one lanquage with no jerkiness. However, The quality just isn't what I'd like. That's why I'm trying to do two discs.

              Sorry for rambling, but I'm not good at the tech stuff. Please forgive,

              Marci

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              • blutach
                Not a god of digital video
                • Oct 2004
                • 24627

                #8
                Re DVD Shrink and Troy.

                See this post.

                If you back up only title 1, the compresion may get to an acceptable level (but I doubt it, the VOBIDs are shared, as we saw before).

                Regards
                Last edited by blutach; 29 Jan 2005, 09:56 AM.
                Les

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                Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
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                Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

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                • Marcia
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 9

                  #9
                  OK,

                  So how can I strip TROY using DVD Decrypter and not get the jerkiness and lanquage 'overlap' that I'd described before?

                  Isn't it obvious that the stripped files are defective, thus, resulting in IfoEdit mimmicking such?

                  You sent me to a post about DVD Shrink. Shouldn't someone get the movie TROY, strip it with DVD Decrypter, then see if these 'master' files have the 'defects' that I've gotten?? Repeat: I used DVD Shrink AFTER my frustrations with DVD Decrypter and then the obvious results with IfoEdit.

                  I'm not asking about DVD Shrink. I'm trying to SPLIT the movie TROY with IfoEdit after stripping with DVD Decrypter. The split will only reflect what the stripping does, don't you think?

                  Please...somebody get an original copy of TROY, strip it with DVD Decrypter, then examine the VOB files one-by-one using a viewer. If you get the same result, pulleeezz...let this non-tech lady know, OK?

                  Marci

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                  • blutach
                    Not a god of digital video
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 24627

                    #10
                    Did you get any errors during the DVD Decrypter rip? And, does the original disk play OK? If so, I doubt there's anything wrong with the rip. And, as I said, your Disk 1 looks fine. Does it play?
                    Last edited by blutach; 29 Jan 2005, 02:51 PM.
                    Les

                    Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

                    Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
                    [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

                    Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                    Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                    You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

                    Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

                    Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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                    • blutach
                      Not a god of digital video
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 24627

                      #11
                      Marci,

                      I just read your first post again. You are trying to burn with bl**dy Nero, aren't you??? Guess what? You have a file called VIDEO_TS.VOB which is 0 bytes. Delete it!!!! And do a Get VTS Sectors in IfoEdit.

                      Now, it is not absolutely necessary to have this file, but Nero whinges and bleats about it and gives you a mysterous "file allocation error". It then asks if you want to continue. Simply say, Yes and burn the disk (use an RW for the time being). Try it! I bet your disk 1 comes out OK.

                      Regards
                      Last edited by blutach; 29 Jan 2005, 04:45 PM.
                      Les

                      Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

                      Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
                      [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

                      Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                      Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                      You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

                      Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

                      Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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                      • blutach
                        Not a god of digital video
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 24627

                        #12
                        Hi Marci,

                        I noticed you've gone quiet on this, so I hope you have fixed this up.

                        If not, you might like to try DVD FAB - look at http://www.mrbass.org/dvdfab/ for fee download and illustrated tutorial.

                        Regards
                        Les

                        Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

                        Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
                        [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

                        Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                        Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                        You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

                        Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

                        Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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                        • Marcia
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Hi Les,

                          No, I hadn't actually gone quiet. I had to get the orginal DVD back to its owner. And I'd gotten so frustrated that I had to just walk away for awhile. The DVD that I made with DVD Shrink, although at 62%, works pretty well. I'm going to do a three hour movie later and try to split it. I think it will be OK. Will let you know.

                          Thanks so much for your help and time. I now know about that .VOB that NERO doesn't like. Of course Decrypter didn't like it either, evidently.

                          No more headache,

                          Marci

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                          • setarip
                            Retired
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 24955

                            #14
                            "I had to get the orginal DVD back to its owner."

                            Had you stated this in your intial post to this thread, I'm sure "blutach" and any of the other regular posters here would have told you that discussion of anything to do with media that you haven't purchased/don't own is a violation of the rules of these forums...

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                            • Marcia
                              Junior Member
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2005
                              • 9

                              #15
                              I'm very sorry. Please forgive.

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