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  • Pabelard
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 3

    drive speed

    I have a new DVD burner Sony DRX-800ul. The only options for burn speeds I can find are 6X to 16X. Even at 6x I'm getting crappy results. Is there a way to slow the drive down?
  • jm1647
    An Eagles Fan, A MenuShrinker
    • Apr 2005
    • 3661

    #2
    With a lot of the 16x burners the firmware will only burn most media at 6x for the slowest speed, it all depends how it is handled in the drives firmware.

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    • jmet
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2002
      • 8697

      #3
      Welcome to the Digital Digest Video forum Pabelard!

      Could you post a log file from Nero ?

      To do so, go here: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero
      Look for a file named "NeroHistory.log"
      Open that file up and copy the last log in it.
      Then paste it here.

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      • Pabelard
        Junior Member
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 3

        #4
        burn log

        Here is a recent burn log on the new drive. The toshiba drive listed as the D drive below used to burn great at 2x but is tempermental for other reasons.
        [28.10.2005]------------------------------------
        17:06:20 Robot error messages from:
        ====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======
        Nero Serial Removed
        Nero Serial Removed*
        Windows XP 5.1
        IA32
        WinAspi: -
        ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 11:35:32 AM
        Nero API version: 6.6.0.8
        Using interface version: 6.3.1.4
        Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
        Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
        Recorder: <SONY DVD RW DRU-800A> Version: KY05 - HA 2 TA 1 - 6.6.0.8
        Adapter driver: <> HA 2
        Drive buffer : 2048kB
        Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
        === Scsi-Device-Map ===
        DiskPeripheral : TOSHIBA MK6022GAX atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
        CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R6112 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
        === CDRom-Device-Map ===
        TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R6112 D: CDRom0
        SONY DVD RW DRU-800A E: CDRom1
        =======================
        AutoRun : 1
        Excluded drive IDs:
        WriteBufferSize: 73400320 (0) Byte
        ShowDrvBufStat : 0
        BUFE : 0
        Physical memory : 502MB (514476kB)
        Free physical memory: 166MB (170920kB)
        Memory in use : 66 %
        Uncached PFiles: 0x0
        Use Inquiry : 1
        Global Bus Type: default (0)
        Check supported media : Disabled (0)
        4.11.2005
        NeroAPI
        6:58:08 PM #1 Phase 112 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
        DVD-Video files reallocation started

        6:58:08 PM #2 Phase 114 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
        DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

        6:58:08 PM #3 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
        DVD-Video files sorted

        6:58:08 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
        Reader running

        6:58:08 PM #5 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 842
        DRM: StartDrmRecording(RealRec:1, ImageRec:0, Copies:1)
        DRM: Beginning burn process.

        6:58:08 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
        Writer SONY DVD RW DRU-800A running

        6:58:08 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
        First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

        6:58:08 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
        First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

        6:58:08 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
        Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

        6:58:09 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 260
        Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
        Last address to be written: 2286111 (508:01.36, 4465MB)

        6:58:09 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 272
        Write in overburning mode: NO

        6:58:09 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2339
        Recorder: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A, Media type: DVD-R
        Disc Manufacturer: TYG03 -
        Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

        6:58:09 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 438
        >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
        =========================================

        6:58:09 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
        Setup items (after recorder preparation)
        0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
        2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
        original disc pos #0 + 2286112 (2286112) = #2286112/508:1.37
        relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
        -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286112 blocks [SONY DVD RW DRU-800A]
        --------------------------------------------------------------

        6:58:09 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
        Prepare recorder [SONY DVD RW DRU-800A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
        DAO infos:
        ==========
        MCN: ""
        TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
        Tracks 1 to 1:
        1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681957376, ISRC ""
        DAO layout:
        ===========
        __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
        0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
        0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
        0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
        2286112 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

        6:58:09 PM #16 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
        Caching of files started

        6:58:09 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
        Cache writing successful.

        6:58:09 PM #18 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
        Caching of files completed

        6:58:09 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
        Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

        6:58:09 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
        Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

        6:58:09 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2216
        Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

        6:58:09 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21241
        Set BUFE: Power-Burn -> ON , Adapt writespeed to disc : ON

        6:58:09 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2362
        Start write address at LBA 0
        DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

        6:58:09 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
        ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
        Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
        Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
        Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
        Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
        Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
        Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
        End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
        End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
        Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
        Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
        Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
        Media Specific [16..63]:
        00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
        00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
        00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

        6:58:09 PM #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5323
        Drive: SONY DVD RW DRU-800A
        Book Type request [LO]: DVD-ROM
        Book Type setting not supported for the loaded disc type

        6:58:48 PM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
        18:58:48.218 - SONY DVD RW DRU-800A\H2 T1 : Queue again later

        7:04:18 PM #27 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
        <SONY DVD RW DRU-800A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286112 (22E220h), lenght 0 blocks

        7:04:18 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
        all writers idle, stopping conversion

        7:04:18 PM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2625
        EndDAO: Last written address was 2286111

        7:04:26 PM #30 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
        Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

        7:04:27 PM #31 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 867
        DRM: DRM burn session terminated.

        7:04:27 PM #32 Text 0 File AudioCompilationImpl.cpp, Line 896
        DRM: Closing entire DRM handling. Bye.

        Existing drivers:
        File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/29/2002 6:00:00 AM
        Registry Keys:
        HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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        • jmet
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2002
          • 8697

          #5
          "Nero API version: 6.6.0.8"
          Update your version of Nero, they are up to 6.6.0.16 now. Go here and download "Update-Package 1" - http://www.nero.com/us/nero-up.php

          "Physical memory : 502MB (514476kB)
          Free physical memory: 166MB (170920kB)
          Memory in use : 66 %"
          Free up some system memory. All of those icons next to your PC's clock. Right click on them, then left click on "Exit" before you start burning. You can also go here to learn how to stop these programs from starting up everytime you reboot. - http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=56373

          "6:58:09 PM #19 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 276
          Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)"
          Slow it down to 4X.

          "Book Type request [LO]: DVD-ROM
          Book Type setting not supported for the loaded disc type"
          Book Type setting is only for +R media.

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          • cynthia
            Super Moderatress
            • Jan 2004
            • 14278

            #6
            Just out of curiosity - have you tried to copy a burned disc back to your hard disk? If you can do that - the burning should be ok.

            The problem with the playback can be that your stand alone player don't like to deal with burned discs.

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            • Pabelard
              Junior Member
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 3

              #7
              Thank you I'll try all this.

              The discs do work fine on my computer but are pixilated on my DVD player. Could this just be a higher quality reader in my computer? are there recomendations for stand alone DVD players that will read the same dics as the computer drive?

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              • tigerman8u
                Lord of Digital Video
                Lord of Digital Video
                • Aug 2003
                • 2123

                #8
                go here for dvd writer/dvd player media compatibility www.videohelp.com

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                • jmet
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 8697

                  #9
                  "The discs do work fine on my computer but are pixilated on my DVD player"
                  If your backup freezes, stutters, skips, or has some pixelation, it is more than likely due to poor quality media being used. Cheap media is poorly manufactured around the edge of the disc, hence the reason why it mostly skips or freezes from the middle toward the end of the movie. The two main things to consider first are:

                  1. Is it cheap media that you are using? (ie. some off brand you bought at a local computer store/fair, even a store like Circuit City or Best Buy sells cheap low quality media.)

                  2. How fast are you burning? - Burn no faster than 4X, might have to go down to 2X with really cheap media.

                  Also, are you using adhesive labels on your back ups? If so, try removing the labels (if you can) and playing them again. Go here for more info on why not to use labels. - http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=28604

                  You can go here for some other possible solutions: http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=44912


                  Also try lowering outcome the "Target DVD size".

                  Open DVD Shrink. Click "Edit", then "Preferences". On the first tab at the top in the drop down box, change it from "DVD-5 (4.7GB) to "Custom" and enter a number of 4200MB (4464MB is burning to the edge of the disc, you want to stay away from the edge as the edge of cheap media (disc's) are poorly manufactured). Screen Shot Below:

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                  • doit2it
                    Platinum Member
                    Platinum Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 180

                    #10
                    @Pabelard

                    Hello
                    The only options for burn speeds I can find are 6X to 16X.
                    Try to find some 4X or 8X burnable media for sale

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                    • jm1647
                      An Eagles Fan, A MenuShrinker
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 3661

                      #11
                      Originally Posted by Pabelard
                      I have a new DVD burner Sony DRX-800ul. The only options for burn speeds I can find are 6X to 16X. Even at 6x I'm getting crappy results. Is there a way to slow the drive down?
                      There are programs called Omnipatcher by the Codeguys and MediaCodeSpeedEdit by ala42 that will allow you to change the burner firmware to burn media at a lower speed if your burner is supported by the programs if it is the media that is the problem.

                      Also if the burner is supported by Omnipatcher or MediaCodeSpeedEdit you can dump the supported media codes from the drives firmware and see what it supports.

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                      • Chewy
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 18971

                        #12
                        firewire or usb2?

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