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    Default Buffer and burn time problem

    I have a pioneer dvr110 and i when burn the buffer goes up and down constantly and not by small percentages but it can go down to 8% and back to 93%

    So i tried burning anyway at x16 with a verbatim media and while the burn was successful, it took me 30 minutes!

    i know that at x16 it should take more like 3 minutes

    any ideas on why this happens?

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    Is your DMA in PIO mode? Post a log from your burning program. And 16x is too fast for some burner/firmware/media combinations.

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    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: -
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 18:35:34
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
    Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b

    Recorder:
    Version: 1.22 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
    Drive buffer : 2000kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
    CD-ROM: <toshiba dvd-rom="" sd-m1502="">Version: 1002 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
    Adapter driver: <viamraid> HA 2

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600JS-19MHB0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp CD-R/RW SH-R522C atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M15021002 viamraid Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 1 DMA: Off
    CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 2 DMA: Off

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D J: CDRom1
    TSSTcorp CD-R/RW SH-R522C E: CDRom2
    TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1502 D: CDRom0
    Generic DVD-ROM F: CDRom3
    Generic DVD-ROM G: CDRom4
    Generic DVD-ROM H: CDRom5
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 1023MB (1048044kB)
    Free physical memory: 642MB (657720kB)
    Memory in use : 37
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    12.11.2005
    ISO compilation
    12:03:49 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : TRUE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    12:03:49 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    12:03:49 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D running

    12:03:49 #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    12:03:49 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    12:03:50 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2214687 (492:09.12, 4325MB)

    12:03:50 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    12:03:50 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: MCC 03 - RG20
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    12:03:50 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    12:03:50 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2214688 (2214688) = #2214688/492:9.13
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2214688 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    12:03:50 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4535681024, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2214688 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    12:03:50 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    12:03:50 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
    Cache writing successful.

    12:03:50 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    12:03:50 #15 Phase 32 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Simulation started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

    12:04:02 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    12:04:02 #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    12:04:02 #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

    12:04:02 #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    12:04:02 #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified=""> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    12:04:04 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    12:04:04.546 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

    12:05:37 #120 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    12:05:37.140 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

    12:32:00 #121 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116

    start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2214688 (21CB20h), lenght 0 blocks

    12:32:00 #122 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    12:32:00 #123 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
    EndDAO: Last written address was 2214687

    12:32:13 #124 Phase 33 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Simulation completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

    12:32:14 #125 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

    12:32:14 #126 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    12:32:15 #127 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    12:32:15 #128 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

    12:32:15 #129 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    12:32:15 #130 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified=""> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    12:32:17 #131 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    12:32:17.234 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

    12:34:23 #230 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
    12:34:23.984 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

    13:02:00 #231 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116

    start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2214688 (21CB20h), lenght 0 blocks

    13:02:00 #232 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    13:02:00 #233 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
    EndDAO: Last written address was 2214687

    13:02:12 #234 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 12/03/2005 00:28:13 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 03/08/2004 22:59:44 (Adapter driver for rec)
    File 'Drivers\viamraid.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.310, size=74112 bytes, created 18/05/2004 10:55:26 (Adapter driver for src)


    There were alot more queue thingis but i deleted most
    </not></not></viamraid></toshiba></atapi>

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    5 min 40 sec is hall of fame(cd freaks) full disk/high quality

    now nero and/or your firmware may be corrupt.

    "TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M15021002 viamraid Port 2 ID 0"
    strange

    virtual drives too.

    Can you give a little history or specs about your computer?

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    My dvd-rom is on an onboard raid - that if switch the raid mode off it only accepts HDDs, thats why it has a raid controller

    as for my virtual drives, guess i have alot of ISOs i need to mount

    and i dont know what you mean by history but i can give you my specs

    P4 3.2GHZ
    Gigabyte 8I915P Duo
    Radeon X600XT
    WD 160GB Sata

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    I think NERO reads the blank DVD to see what the maximum burn speed is for that disc and then tries to burn it at that speed. When the log says a lot of Queue again later messages, I think it means your burner is having a hard time burning at that speed. You may need to do a firmware update or just try burning at a lower speed. It's safer to do that anyway

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    Try turning some stuff off, with dvd burners so cheap, there's not much need
    for cd burners(obsolete), I had a similar problem with an OC I was doing.
    I suspect my firmware became corrupt, I reflashed and reloaded nero
    just to be safe. One thing is for sure, something is hosing your system.

    Is everything turned on in bios? Turn off what's not being used.

    Those bleeding edge mobos are a royal P.I.T.A.

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    I tried disabling my virtual drives and burning at x4
    still no effect

    what else should i try?

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    have you tried imgburn?

    edit : i just checked , you are the guy with a chipset driver problem - did you install the matrix drivers yet?
    Last edited by cornholio7; 13 Nov 2005 at 06:39 AM

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    Yes i did
    the buffer is still crazy and it burns at 2x (while i set it at 4x)

    Edit:

    I found that problem
    it was that the burner was connected to an onboard RAID
    now its not

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    That explains nero's problem with identifying the drive in the log,
    raid chipsets aren't meant for atapi drives.

    BINGO!

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    But it is no longer on raid...

    i've put it on a non-raid IDE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoomy
    But it is no longer on raid...

    i've put it on a non-raid IDE
    Always connect the optical/atapi ide drives to the primary or secondary
    ide controllers on the motherboard, there are very few other controllers
    that work right.

    The new serial mobos and hard drives free up the ide's.

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    The burner is on the primary ide channel

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    I usually put my combos/dvd-roms on the primary and burners on secondary,
    for the frequent firmware flashing I do. I am a little too picky some time.

    Is it working now?

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