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  • blutach
    Not a god of digital video
    • Oct 2004
    • 24627

    #16
    Just a little note, hopefully not too OT

    Many commercial DVDs can theoretically go to nowhere (although I am sure on normal operation they are just fine). I have seen many where IF gprm(x) == (whatever) then goto PGCN (whatever) and the PGC is empty.

    Others include tests for button numbers that cascade thru, the last one going to a NOP at the end of the post commands of the PGC (which has no Next PGCN). A good example of this can be seen in the pictures of this thread.

    Regards
    Last edited by blutach; 27 May 2007, 09:07 AM.
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    • FallenAngel
      Digital Video Specialist
      Digital Video Specialist
      • Jun 2003
      • 816

      #17
      Uploaded new testbed

      Dirio49 -- Now stomps on all Jumps/Calls in Fp to Target
      Rewrites last command to user selected target (if no Jumps present).

      Added Checkbox to use Text (Selected font) instead of Bitmap Resources for "Play, Setup, etc buttons

      Combined Text_color and resource color and opened up Text colors beyond 16 basic colors

      Gui was getting to tight loosened it up bit and grouped things up

      Hopefully No Strange window clipping In Japan

      Blutach -- Quite true but trying to create a Newbie One Clicker for those situations would be extremely code base heavy --And theres already about 9000 lines of code just "fixing" and fixing exotics now

      2ish DVD failure rate out of about 2000 (with orig menus)
      With a Simple Fairly "Pretty" Fix/Alternative (Make Menu)
      And no DVD command knowledge/Pgc structure required of user
      -- I can Live with it --

      And this testbed should cover Dirios gremlin
      (actually his problem was more one of initial preference not total failure -- The Movie started -- The Menu was available Via Menu Button)

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      • dirio49
        Platinum Member
        Platinum Member
        • Apr 2005
        • 177

        #18
        thanks for new testbed
        That does it.
        But i agree with that this dvd is easier just to use make menus.
        But sometimes people like to do it the hard way

        In this case I think I would recommend to a Newbie ("Incapable of altering DVD Commands")To Try this >> Undo >> Make Menu >> when done click on Vts Title 1 and browse to orig menu >>Save Changes
        BTW, this way would hit some trouble too. because of other commands
        But you can play the movie off the "Title" Menu( the one that titlewritter creates )
        if you made it that it takes you to the Room menu after the title and pressed play on the root Menu, halt again. Here than the Play All button on the title menu would save you.
        Last edited by dirio49; 27 May 2007, 09:49 AM.
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        • tetsuro_ja
          Gold Member
          Gold Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 126

          #19
          Thanks for the new version and TestBed.

          The MakeMenu function of 4.31 is very stable in Japan.
          But the MakeMenu function of TestBed is bad in Japan.
          As soon as Font button is clicked, TitleWriter is often terminated because of Application Error.
          The idea of using Text instead of Bitmap is good...

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          • jinjin_jp
            Digital Video Enthusiast
            Digital Video Enthusiast
            • Aug 2006
            • 315

            #20
            I tried to use for new testbed.

            The setting of title colour was removed, colour setting is only Text/Resource. It works something wrong.
            (1)When the setting changes to black,
            *setting is not refected to output and preview. Its colour is determined by the setting of previous output.
            *Next and back buttons is invisible in output and preview.
            (2)When the setting changes from black,
            *setting is not refected to title colour of output and preview. Its colour is black.
            (I've not confirmed about ver.4.31. I used default setting.)
            (2)This problem is same when the setting changes to not-black,
            *setting is not refected to title colour of output and preview. Title colour is determined by the setting of previous output, and button text colour is reflected correctly.



            I think better "Create Movie Chapter/Setup(/Audio?) Menu" is not in "Dvd/Menu Style Options", because it is independent of titles, but others is common with all titles.

            And I have a request. Button of "Apply to all" for "Chapter/Setup Menu", because it is convinient when many titles. (Sometimes I create DVD of over 50 titles, it is my daughter's DVD of many songs captured from TV program for children.)


            What is the meaning of "Use Text for PlayaLL,Main,etc Buttons" ?
            These buttons was created, when I didn't check it.

            Regards.

            edit(blue)
            Last edited by jinjin_jp; 27 May 2007, 04:41 PM.

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            • FallenAngel
              Digital Video Specialist
              Digital Video Specialist
              • Jun 2003
              • 816

              #21
              Just Uploaded another Testbed -- Must have been brain dead yesterday

              Seems I was creating the Vts menus in all cases then not using them Dumb Monkey

              More GUI Tinkering

              Hopefully fixed the Font/color problem

              Jinjin_jp

              I think better "Create Movie Chapter/Setup(/Audio?) Menu" is not in "Dvd/Menu Style Options", because it is independent of titles, but others is common with all titles.
              Quite right -- The monkey is rapidly regressing -- Getting painful to watch

              What is the meaning of "Use Text for PlayaLL,Main,etc Buttons" ?
              These buttons was created, when I didn't check it.
              When Checked The current Font is used to create the bottom line of buttons
              When not -- Bitmap Resource files (Ex. Play.bmp) are used

              (Of course anyone can change those bitmaps to anything You just need to retain the filename name and make sure the background/transparent color is < 15(Possible Sloppy .JPG Decompression to .BMP)

              Though they might look funny when I Squish/Stretch them to Cell position

              Dirio49
              BTW, this way would hit some trouble too. because of other commands
              Not really the Make Menu VMG is Imported as the VMG, And the Original into VTS (Happyface may be required on the VTS to eliminate possible back jumping to VMGM FP or PGC's) -- Simple

              It simply uses the Make Menu VMGM as the Switcher for a single movie
              (you shouldn't be resetting the FP on start target with a Generic anyway)

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              • jinjin_jp
                Digital Video Enthusiast
                Digital Video Enthusiast
                • Aug 2006
                • 315

                #22
                Thanks for new TestBed5_27.
                (By the way, what 5_27 means?)

                Hopefully fixed the Font/color problem
                This problem is fixed. Thanks.
                Though actually no problem, in preview of 2nd page, "HighLight Color" is incorrectlly reflected to "Text/Resource Color".

                Thanks for adding "Apply To All Movies” for ”Create Movie Chapter/Setup/Audio Menu”. It is very convinient.

                About "Use Text for PlayAll,Main,etc Buttons"
                When Checked The current Font is used to create the bottom line of buttons
                When not -- Bitmap Resource files (Ex. Play.bmp) are used
                Thanks for the explanation. I understand.

                When checked, both side of some button text is invisible. It seems to be because the size of buttons is small for text.

                Regards.
                Last edited by jinjin_jp; 27 May 2007, 09:39 PM.

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                • tetsuro_ja
                  Gold Member
                  Gold Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 126

                  #23
                  Thanks for TestBed5_27.

                  I like TestBed5_27 but the slider of "Soften Button Highlighted and Selected colors" is strange as follows.

                  1) This slider seems to be not effective in Preview.
                  2) When CreateMenu button is clicked after this slider is moved from 0, Warning "Spumux will kick an error..." is issued and TitleWriter hangs up.

                  Regards

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                  • dirio49
                    Platinum Member
                    Platinum Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 177

                    #24
                    HI,
                    in the latest testbed, 5_27 the create menu is hidden under the frame preview.
                    My resolution is 1280x1024
                    and in addition, if I Left click on Preview, and then let go the preview redraws/resizes itself and you can see the botton. no idea why this happens.


                    Question.
                    Does Happyface remap buttons, so they jump directly to where they are supposed to go instead of them going to other pgc's first?
                    Last edited by dirio49; 28 May 2007, 03:14 AM.
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                    • FallenAngel
                      Digital Video Specialist
                      Digital Video Specialist
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 816

                      #25
                      Dirio49 -- Simplified --Thats exactly what Happyface does
                      You drag/drop buttons to their matching form areas -- Chaptering is a little more complex -- Each Line is a specific Chapter Page (Ex 1-4, 5-8 etc).

                      I Attempt to preload the buttons/pgc's for you (Sometimes TW is all Wet in this area -- TW doesn't Have "Eyes")
                      It also wipes out pre commands in selected pgcs (which removes forced navigation to KaKa --This essentially turns the Menu into a "Simple" generic style
                      And Myriad other fixes are applied
                      Since On Simplify Menu --I then actually have hard data as to what is what and where the buttons lead

                      I'll Fix Create Button position in tomorrows testbed5_28

                      Tetsuro_ja
                      Had to take Softening out of Preview when I started applying it to VTS Menus -- I'll probably readd when things stabilize

                      Yes happens (Seems only on the 2x3 thumbnails Chapter Matrix)
                      Either don't use softening there or move slider left. all the other chapter counts/page seem to work fine at any slider position
                      Monkey is really scratching head on this one.

                      Hangs Up
                      -- You should have seen TW Thread error window (DOS Shell Window) come up -- With the last line "Press any Key To Continue"
                      Did/Do You see this Error trap Window???


                      Jinjin_jp
                      testbed5_27 Means testbed todays date --I have to keep track in some manner

                      When checked, both side of some button text is invisible. It seems to be because the size of buttons is small for text.
                      Text is drawn (Centered horizontally and Vertically) using current font size in cell (clips if necessary) cells are calculated by what will "fit"
                      Solution -- Reduce Font Size
                      Perhaps I'll throw in a warning in Log Window if Clipping is happening (But it would have to be while Create Menu is running
                      (Its the only time I actually have the Cell dimensions -- Not sure how badly it would reduce rendering speed)

                      (This will also happen if you Put to many chars in DVDVolumename etc)

                      Resources bmps are Squished/stretched to fit Cell dimensions

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                      • dirio49
                        Platinum Member
                        Platinum Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 177

                        #26
                        @FA,
                        i think TitleWriter does not modify both sets menus, if they have same buttons
                        Bellow,
                        the one with the green the buttons are all good, and fine
                        but the one with the red, has the buttons leading to no mans land ( but only if you import strictly the original menus)
                        i used advance and specified both 10 and 11 as the pgcs that need to be modified
                        BTW if you import the original menu ,the movie start it goes to pgc 10 --> lead to trouble
                        VMG , First-Play PGC
                        VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 1 (0:01) 2b. TitleM (Programs: 1, Cells: 1)
                        VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 2 (dummy)
                        VMGM , LU 1 (en) , 3 (dummy)

                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 1 (dummy)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 2 (0:32) 11b. AudioM (Programs: 1, Cells: 1)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 3 (dummy) AngleM
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 4 (dummy)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 5 (0:03) 95b. ChapterM (Programs: 7, Cells: 7)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 6 (dummy)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 7 (dummy)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 8 (dummy)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 9 (0:04) (Programs: 1, Cells: 1)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 10 (1:28) 5b. (Programs: 1, Cells: 1)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 11 (0:58) 5b. RootM (Programs: 1, Cells: 1)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 12 (0:07) (Programs: 1, Cells: 1)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 13 (dummy)
                        VTSM 1 , LU 1 (en) , 14 (dummy)
                        This is what TitleWriter finds
                        Last edited by dirio49; 29 May 2007, 05:38 AM. Reason: To correct Caps in TitleWriter
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                        • FallenAngel
                          Digital Video Specialist
                          Digital Video Specialist
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 816

                          #27
                          If you wanted to modify both -- Why didn't you drop it into Happyface second line -- Ps how do you reach that menu Hmm
                          And can you reach the chain that leads to that pgc.

                          It only fixes the Pgcs you tell it to

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                          • dirio49
                            Platinum Member
                            Platinum Member
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 177

                            #28
                            You are right, you cannot really reach that menu. ( well at least after HappyFace it is uncalled )

                            If you wanted to modify both -- Why didn't you drop it into Happyface second line
                            this I did, but it did not modify the commands, because if you select pgc 10 in HappyFace, it just takes you back to PGC 11.
                            And it does not show the bottons
                            as you can see on the scene shot

                            P.S.
                            I hope no harm done .
                            Last edited by dirio49; 28 May 2007, 07:10 AM.
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                            • FallenAngel
                              Digital Video Specialist
                              Digital Video Specialist
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 816

                              #29
                              Dirio49

                              Now I see it

                              Now that I think about it Happyface would add that to the list as a viable target menu even though it didn't contain buttons.(Because the Pgc Line entry Shows Buttons)
                              But when it came time to simplify it -- found nothing -- Modified nothing
                              And Heres the only problem -- Then it Set Pgc 10 as the Root
                              Thats Weird it must be specified in the ifo as containing buttons -- but the Vob Cell in the .vob file doesn't seem to contain the info.

                              Not Much I can do about it if the ifo lies

                              Pls Pm me with the name of the DVD -- I want to see what a true mess those ifos are


                              Very Bad Menu Design if you ask me --- Well by specifying 11 first as root in Happyface it is fixed And You have a Playable DVD I'm Guessing.

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                              • dirio49
                                Platinum Member
                                Platinum Member
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 177

                                #30
                                FA,
                                here is a twist for you, if i menushrink the menu, then TitleWriter finds the bottons just fine

                                BTW in pgc 10 the buttons show up later on, not on the beging of the cell(they show up at 8 sec form the beginning of the cell), unlike pgc 11 where the buttons show up right in the beginning
                                Last edited by dirio49; 29 May 2007, 05:39 AM. Reason: Fixes Caps in TitleWriter
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